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Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:08 pm
by Vephriel
Kalliope wrote:Uhhh, just thought of something.
I don't know the specifics on troll lore, but I *do* know that Akil'zon is the EAGLE boss in ZA.
I dunno if that'll make a difference....and I really really hope that Blizzard goes for the bat....but just putting that out there.
Those are the Amani trolls though.
"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
Each tribe has its own strong beliefs.
I hope Blizzard doesn't overlook something so imperative to Darkspear lore. ><
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:33 pm
by Bellatryx
The "wolf form" thing bugs me too. Cats are pretty agile. I suspect mine have learned kung fu while I wasn't looking. Never heard anything about no ninja wolves.. psh..
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:06 pm
by Kalliope
Vephriel wrote:"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
THAT was the quote I couldn't remember! Thanks Veph!
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:14 pm
by bluddy
*where to find that quote?
*eyes roll to lil'ragnaros...doesn't care bout the worgen flight form anymore but WHEEE lil'ragnaros!
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:04 am
by Arwyn
Kalliope wrote:Vephriel wrote:"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
THAT was the quote I couldn't remember! Thanks Veph!
May I dream of a wind serpent form?
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:10 am
by Trinia
Arwyn wrote:
May I dream of a wind serpent form?
Yes, you may.
I'm hoping for a bat form. Mainly due to the bird hate that the Darkspears' have (mentioned above) as well as the fact of the Bat Priestess in ZG. Meaning the Jungle Trolls (Darkspears are jungle trolls,) do worship a bat loa or have in the past. Also, the troll druid in the Echo Isles event furthers my hopes. If they do make a bat flight form, I will TOTALLY level a Troll Druid. I've been hoping for more bats as mounts and such since Classic. Flightform is a half-mount, so I'd be a very happy camper. <3
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:07 am
by Suicune
Vephriel wrote:
"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
Each tribe has its own strong beliefs. I hope Blizzard doesn't overlook something so imperative to Darkspear lore. ><
Just found this on MMOChampion, will make you and all of us who like Lore happy:
Clickies!
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:54 am
by Sanchico
This should be Worgen's flight form
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Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:08 am
by Kryte
Suicune wrote:Vephriel wrote:
"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
Each tribe has its own strong beliefs. I hope Blizzard doesn't overlook something so imperative to Darkspear lore. ><
Just found this on MMOChampion, will make you and all of us who like Lore happy:
Clickies!
Well, it fits well with the other troll druid forms: Hideous.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:02 pm
by Arwyn
Hoodacz at MMO-champ made this model using the skin:
It'll probably be more detailed in game but huzzah that Blizz stuck to lore and didn't try to retcon anything.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:41 pm
by Kalliope
So....
Blizzard's counter to giving trolls a bat for flight form is to make it HIDEOUS, so no one whines.
....it might actually work.
Actually, this looks like epic flight form; I'd like to see regular.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:49 pm
by Vephriel
YES! Eeeee I'm so happy!!!!!!!!! Love it!
Thank you Blizzard for not ignoring such a detail! <3
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:38 pm
by Saturo
Kryte wrote:Suicune wrote:Vephriel wrote:
"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
Each tribe has its own strong beliefs. :) I hope Blizzard doesn't overlook something so imperative to Darkspear lore. ><
Just found this on MMOChampion, will make you and all of us who like Lore happy:
Clickies!
Well, it fits well with the other troll druid forms: Hideous.
Indeed. How the hell were they thinking with this thing?
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:39 pm
by Vephriel
I really like the appearance of it, I think it looks awesome.
And honestly, I couldn't care
what it looks like, as long as it isn't a bird!
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:13 pm
by VelkynKarma
Cerah wrote:The Troll druid NPC during the Free the Echo Isles event had a bat for a flight form, so here's hoping!
Was gonna mention this XD I remember SQUEEING when she turned into a bat when she joins you, 'cause I was like, "aw yeah, this means Bliz'll probably make flight form a bat too!"
Vephriel wrote:
Those are the Amani trolls though.
"Darkspear consider the serpent to be a powerful spirit, but they disdain bird spirits as "weak, capricious, and best left to the Amani". "
Each tribe has its own strong beliefs.
I hope Blizzard doesn't overlook something so imperative to Darkspear lore. ><
I was actually also reminded during this discussion of that one series of quests in Zangamarsh. Those trolls are Darkspear too (they give Darkspear rep at any rate). One of them has you go collect totems from the Broken natives and study what they turn into. When you bring back a lot of owl totems, she basically tells you they're lame as hell and comments that no wonder they're so weak. Or something like that. It's been a while, but I distinctly remember scorn and disdain. XP
Also, is that bat flight form official, or is this just what a fan made? I'm a bit confused on that. :O
~VelkynKarma
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:16 pm
by Vephriel
The 'skin' for that seems to have been datamined. I think it's official, yes, but the bat model was fanmade by applying the found texture. There isn't an official model of it yet.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:19 pm
by VelkynKarma
Aaaah, okay. Makes sense then.
I don't really care how ugly it is, as long as it's cool. I never play trolls 'cause they're pretty, I play'em cause they're sinister, dangerous, and clever, and can break you in two over their knee without a second thought. XP
~VelkynKarma
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:20 pm
by Vephriel
VelkynKarma wrote:I don't really care how ugly it is, as long as it's cool. I never play trolls 'cause they're pretty, I play'em cause they're sinister, dangerous, and clever, and can break you in two over their knee without a second thought. XP
^ In so much agreement with you.
I never play a female Troll with the 'pretty' face. My future female druid will have one of the 'ugly' ones because I think they have far more character and badassery.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:31 pm
by Ariamodasu
Please don't be a reskin over the terrible bat model though, epic flight is lovely, unique and I'm constantly zooming in on the prettiness.
Re: Worgen Druid Swift Flight Form
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:55 am
by MeAjur
Teigan wrote:It appears to have teeth. And claws. It is not a bird. Worgen flight form is an archeopteryx. :D
This actually bugged my nerd side because it lacks the archeopteryx tail, and clearly must have a keelbone (which archeopteryx lack) because it flies instead of glides. Ichthyornis is a much closer match to the Worgen flight form (except for the minor detail that Ichthyornis was a bit like a sea gull). Not that these are details that Blizzard would stick to if they ever DID put archeopteryx in the game (which I suggested in their suggest-a-pet thread) anyway.
The reason I would have liked to see a wolf as the Worgen cat form is pure aesthetics. Western aesthetics specifically. Despite wolves and cats (and bears) belonging to the Carnivora order, wolves and cats simply feel like an even more extreme than a wolf turning into a tree (which isn't even in the same Kingdom). Also, I am having a bit of difficulty spotting the difference between the Worgen cat form and the Tauren cat form (which IMHO should be a (drum roll please) cow or bull... they're pretty deadly in rodeos, bullfighting, bullleaping, and running of the bulls) at a casual glance. Night Elves are easy, they're the short haired kitties probably inspired by cougars. Trolls are the ones with the mohawks. Taurens are the lion inspired cats (with horns that I never seem to actually spot subconsciously). Worgen cats have manes... leather bands and wrinkly noses. Except for colors they look (to me) like scraggly lions. Bah.
Another thing I really wanted to see (before Blizzard decided the Tree form was a quick spell boost) was different skins on the Treants. Sure we're getting that with the new tree form and the color swaps... but what I REALLY wanted was to see different barks. A druid with dark hair could have had Juniper bark while a druid with light hair could have had birch bark. Obviously this is the kind of desire that spawns from being a healer.
And speaking of tree bark, I HATE HATE HATE (Kefka imitation) the current tree bark. Especially in Grizzly Hills! Those poor trees look neked! I live in the mountains and I've seen barkless trees, they look like that!