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Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:53 am
by Slickrock
AdamSavage wrote:Bubu wrote:Ellaran wrote:
They definitely did for Northrend content, my fresh Beetle didn't even reach halfway to 78 (I'm 80) from the first instance I ran when he should have been really close to 78 or leveled.
Halfway?
What about 1(!!!) bar for whole place?
1 damn bar.
So i guess 18 or 20 total heroic runs to lvl up your pet 77--->80.
Nice surprise for hunters.
Oh, they even don't have to know about it...
They will fix it so it's easier to lvl your pet now that I'm sure of ( I hope atleast). There will be to much of an uproar from the hunters.
Not likely. It's to prevent speed leveling from 80-85 in heroics. If they fixed it, then pet leveling would be silly everyplace else.
Heroics are not the place to level anymore.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:54 am
by ZeroEdgeir
If regulars are giving proper XP, and you still want JP, chain-run the non-heroic ICC 5-mans. They get JP per boss even on normal, same as a Heroic. Just saying, as it is a possible compromise.
But yeah, I'd say going into Icecrown and just slaughtering the fields of them ghosts that come in 5-8 packs, would be best.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:15 am
by Shinryu Masaki
The little skeleton trash mobs in CoT don't even give xp anymore to our pets.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:24 am
by Saturo
Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:25 am
by Lisaara
Saturo wrote:Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
^ This
Nothing to get in a fuzz over. Chillax.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:36 am
by Bubu
In other hand...
We should not complain at all.
If some one remember lvl-up process back in vanilla, especially if you r lvl60 hunter and fell in love with lvl5 pet :O)
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:40 am
by Zwiggy
Tbh it disent matter anyway because no matter what when you ding 81 all pets will ding 78 just take them out of your stables at 85 all pets will be 82 any way so no need to lvl them all.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:52 pm
by Albain
So you're aware, Zwiggy, taking out a level 82 pet vs a level 85 mob is going to mean difficulty on holding aggro, and a swiftly dying pet. Having leveled a few in Twilight Highlands, I know this from experience. You'll want to keep them closer to your level than three behind, because the difference really is that painful. 83 and 84 can manage it, but 82 pets are fragile against 85 mobs.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:17 pm
by Worba
ZeroEdgeir wrote:If regulars are giving proper XP, and you still want JP, chain-run the non-heroic ICC 5-mans. They get JP per boss even on normal, same as a Heroic. Just saying, as it is a possible compromise.
Nope, they nerfed regular instance XP as well - just ran reg lightning halls and my lvl 77 silithid got all of
1.5 bubbles.
Here's hoping the new dungeons in cata will give the kind of pet XP we were all accustomed to...
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:22 pm
by Rhyela
Meh, in a few days we'll be doing so many quests that heroic experience won't matter anyway. Honestly, I prefer it this way, and I'm glad they're making the heroic grinding less appealing. They're making all this shiny new content for us, so let's get out there with our new lovelies and enjoy it!

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:53 pm
by Adam-Savage
Saturo wrote:Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
I have issues with "trusting" Gnomes.

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:59 pm
by Saturo
AdamSavage wrote:Saturo wrote:Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
I have issues with "trusting" Gnomes. ;)
Then don't.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:02 pm
by Cialbi
Albain wrote:So you're aware, Zwiggy, taking out a level 82 pet vs a level 85 mob is going to mean difficulty on holding aggro, and a swiftly dying pet. Having leveled a few in Twilight Highlands, I know this from experience. You'll want to keep them closer to your level than three behind, because the difference really is that painful. 83 and 84 can manage it, but 82 pets are fragile against 85 mobs.
So, would you say that we should level using only a small handful of pets, keeping them each up to speed?
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:03 pm
by Ryai
Taluwen wrote:Saturo wrote:Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
^ This
Nothing to get in a fuzz over. Chillax.
They could have not had it affect pet EXP, or have it come in the day BEFORE cata, or even better- changed it so where pets still got the full bonus of EXP they should, while you do not.
I have quite a few lv 77 pets I need to still level

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:08 pm
by Saturo
Ryai wrote:Taluwen wrote:Saturo wrote:Guys, relax. This is just so people won't level to 85 trough NR heroics. Cata HCs will give your pets a large amount of XP again, trust me. Cata will be released soon anyway.
^ This
Nothing to get in a fuzz over. Chillax.
They could have not had it affect pet EXP, or have it come in the day BEFORE cata, or even better- changed it so where pets still got the full bonus of EXP they should, while you do not.
I have quite a few lv 77 pets I need to still level :|
That would be a lot of unnecessary coding, and you DON'T need all your pets at 80. They'll just fall behind again when Cata hits anyway. It's a wasted effort, and really, it's just four more days, so it's not like it's a month away.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:10 pm
by Striv
You know honestly, I will put up with the exp nerf for pets. Pets now auto lvl up to 3 lvls below you instead of 5. Seems like a fair trade to me. Yup yup.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:12 pm
by Ickabob
Zwiggy wrote:Tbh it disent matter anyway because no matter what when you ding 81 all pets will ding 78 just take them out of your stables at 85 all pets will be 82 any way so no need to lvl them all.
Thats a good Idea! I think I'll try it. Thanks for the tip!
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:17 pm
by Phoronid
Is this where I put on my old man pants and talk about levelling a pet from lvl 9 to 60 in the old classic days, without the new fangled random dungeon system and needing to farm non-grey mobs until my bags were full of runecloth?
No?
Alright.
(As it is, I also don't look forward to leveling all these pets to 85... Luckily, a bunch of mine are "cool looking" only, so can wait.

I also was lucky and I levelled 12 of them farming tabard based goblin faction)
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:33 pm
by Ryai
Saturo wrote:That would be a lot of unnecessary coding, and you DON'T need all your pets at 80. They'll just fall behind again when Cata hits anyway. It's a wasted effort, and really, it's just four more days, so it's not like it's a month away.
And as someone said pets being underleveled
hurt in Cata. So I really don't wanna be 3 levels ahead of the pets I want to use for cata >_>
Does anyone have any idea on how quickly pets level from 77-80 for the 'level 80' cata quests? Or from dungeons, or in general how quickly pets level compared to you? Is it fast, or normal? I mean outside of dungeons because frankly not everyone is going to be grouped up Sat and that is why I am disgruntled. I would have liked to gotten the rest of my pets leveled up.
So how do lv 77 mobs fair against lv 80 cata quest mobs or is it another 'don't bother till you're level capped' deals.
So yeah while I don't need all my pets to be lv 80, it would have been nice to be able to pick a better selection for the rest of my hunters. Since I do have 2 that are almost lv 80 to boot too.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:46 pm
by Saturo
Could always just kite until it's up to a level where it might be able to keep aggro off of you. Pets need 5% of your XP last I looked. Now, even with the higher amounts of XP needed for 80-81 that's not a lot you need to do. One dungeon or, assuming you don't group up at all, a few quest's worth of mobs and it should be far more than caught up.
Besides, ANY pet can keep a mob preoccupied for a few seconds while you take care of it's buddy. And if you INSIST on having an 80 pet, well, any pet will do. A ferocity pet will even regenerate it's health far better than a tenacity or cunning one.