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Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:50 pm
by Kalliope
Tossed a link to a blue post acknowledging the change in the first post. Also added here for your convenience: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... ?page=5#91.

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:53 pm
by Cialbi
ummeiko wrote:Pvp really should be a nonissue... traps last 8 second and can easily be dispelled.
^ This is exactly why chain-trapping had nothing to do with PvP. No CC lasts longer than 8 seconds in PvP as a rule.

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:25 pm
by Sarayana
When I mentioned the PVP aspect, it wasn't to say that we're OP (and we really aren't, are we?), but more to comment on the usual way in which a whine argument about a class builds up in the community until the devs start reacting to it. I've no idea if that's actually what happened here, obviously. ... Although part of me wishes it was, because then at least I could understand the reasoning behind this change. :?

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:23 pm
by Breledorm
Spiritbinder wrote:This is a sad day for hunters everywhere... a very sad day indeed :cry:

Here is another article written on it also... http://lakonism.blogspot.com/2011/02/wh ... ed-or.html
Thank you mentioning my blogg Spiritbinder.

And I can only agree. I was SO looking forward to the day I would get hang of the PvP-gloves so i could try to CC 6 mobs simultaneously. I didn“t expect Blizzard to let us do that for very long, but they could have lowered the timers, instead of destroying the whole mechanic with dual traps.

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:37 pm
by SpiritBinder
Breledorm wrote:
Thank you mentioning my blogg Spiritbinder.

You most welcome, It was a great article and really refreshing that the content was pretty unbiased one way or the other, yet really informative. It explained it's problems, it's possible solutions, it's strengths and weaknesses really well.
Breledorm wrote: but they could have lowered the timers, instead of destroying the whole mechanic with dual traps.


^ This for sure. A simple adjustment to the timers were all that were needed. If it had a 40 second armed time instead of 60, you would have to be rather skilled to keep 2 chain trapped, but doable. To then have three would be near impossible. Such a simple measure compared to the way it was done.

Stealth nerfs are always horrible, but when it completely breaks the mechanic, it really makes me wonder.

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:51 am
by Breledorm
Spiritbinder wrote:Stealth nerfs are always horrible, but when it completely breaks the mechanic, it really makes me wonder.
Yea. When they leave something out of the patch notes it should be some minor change or else it's a bit "fishy".

They can't remove the mechanics for double trapping *by mistake* and then "forget" to mention it to the ones who write the notes. It probably took some time programming...

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:03 am
by Cialbi
Breledorm wrote:
Spiritbinder wrote:Stealth nerfs are always horrible, but when it completely breaks the mechanic, it really makes me wonder.
Yea. When they leave something out of the patch notes it should be some minor change or else it's a bit "fishy".

They can't remove the mechanics for double trapping *by mistake* and then "forget" to mention it to the ones who write the notes. It probably took some time programming...
Actually, this nerf was first implemented in a patch way back in vanilla WoW; they reversed the change within a patch, though. ;)

So, I imagine that this may not have taken much programming, and thus have been relatively easy to slip in at the last minute.

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:04 pm
by Breledorm
Cialbi wrote:Actually, this nerf was first implemented in a patch way back in vanilla WoW; they reversed the change within a patch, though.
You, you are right Cialbi. I forgot about that one...

Re: Massive Stealth Nerf To Hunter Traps

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:41 am
by Malackai
I find the change pretty annoying.

Especially when your raiding and you need to trap things. I had a couple of times that a trap broke from a fellow hunter or even my own and we just double trapped each others mobs to help each other out.

now if I see a trap break from a fellow hunter or even a cc from a other and my trap is on cool down I cant decide to trap it because if I do my prime trap target breaks >_>

I really hope they revert the change :(