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Jessibelle wrote:Just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean their out to get you.

You've said this to me so many times now it's just getting irritating. I never said anyone was out to get me, you just personally annoy me sometimes with your attitude.

My opinion is not that 'they should all have tails because they're red pandas', my opinion is that there is no harm whatsoever in adding a tail. Maybe it looked silly? Didn't stop them making that abomination of a female Worgen we have today when the one from the alpha stage looked perfectly fine apart from a few minor things which could have been easily sorted. If they gave the females a tail, they should give the males a tail. Especially since it's optional. No one ever cried about having more character customisation options before.

It's still in the beta though. Hopefully they'll change their minds for everyone hoping for a male red panda with a tail.

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Jessibelle wrote:Just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean their out to get you.

You've said this to me so many times now it's just getting irritating. I never said anyone was out to get me, you just personally annoy me sometimes with your attitude.

My opinion is not that 'they should all have tails because they're red pandas', my opinion is that there is no harm whatsoever in adding a tail. Maybe it looked silly? Didn't stop them making that abomination of a female Worgen we have today when the one from the alpha stage looked perfectly fine apart from a few minor things which could have been easily sorted. If they gave the females a tail, they should give the males a tail. Especially since it's optional. No one ever cried about having more character customisation options before.

It's still in the beta though. Hopefully they'll change their minds for everyone hoping for a male red panda with a tail.

My attitude has been up-beat. You're the one that went for the throat and put words in my mouth. If anything, I should be the irritated one. I say it because while you don't say it, you come off as you have to bite every time when someone doesn't agree with you. It worries me, honestly. I've got nothing personally against you. We may not see eye to eye on things but I'm okay with that. If everyone was the same, life wouldn't be interesting. :)

Eh...the female worgen we have now is thanks to everyone whining and complaining about the alpha models. I loved the alpha female worgen models. They were gorgeous. But people whined they looked to 'disney' so Blizzard said "Yanno what? Here! You got what you wanted!".

If they gave males the option of having a tail, I wouldn't be all out against it, if thats what you're getting at. I guess I'm alright with what Blizzard goes with either way, as I've witnessed the result of complaining. I don't want them to suddenly change the pandaren because of many complaints.

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No, I know that you don't not want male pandaren to get tails, I know that you wouldn't mind either way. Personally, neither would I really, since it wouldn't affect me. But since there are people who clearly do want it, I have to agree with them and say that they should get tails since it's not a big deal, as I said. You went straight up to Vulpixen and said 'this is not your game, it's their game, they can do what they want'. I know that's a 'it's harsh, but it's the truth' type of quote but in reality you could simply go along and also hope, for the sake of the people that really do want it, that they add this tiny feature into the game. Why not help people get what they want if you don't mind whether it's in the game or not, instead of just telling them that it's not their game so we can't control anything? Because we CAN control things. If enough people want or like something, it's normally added into the game. It seems almost pointless to tell people that it's not their game. They very well know that, we've all experienced Blizzard doing what they want against the will of players. I get very negative vibes off you. All the time. You always have some kind of arguement to make. And you can't say it's because of me or how you respond to me because I've watched you do it in other threads I've not been a part of at all.

And as much as the live version of the female Worgen was Blizzard just going 'here, you got what you asked for now', I thought maybe they would have finished off the alpha model anyway and perhaps made it an option in the game as well. I see threads, constantly, about people wanting the old female Worgen back. I see these people begging and pleaded so much more than the whiners ever did. I don't know if Blizzard are just being lazy (Not giving players what they want or not bothering to dignify anyone about it with a response.) or ignorant about it all. I guess one day we might find out.

Anyway, back on topic: Males should get tails because it's an option, we don't have to have tails on females either, they don't need to add it in however, it would just be a nice little addition. That's all.

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No, I know that you don't not want male pandaren to get tails, I know that you wouldn't mind either way. Personally, neither would I really, since it wouldn't affect me. But since there are people who clearly do want it, I have to agree with them and say that they should get tails since it's not a big deal, as I said. You went straight up to Vulpixen and said 'this is not your game, it's their game, they can do what they want'. I know that's a 'it's harsh, but it's the truth' type of quote but in reality you could simply go along and also hope, for the sake of the people that really do want it, that they add this tiny feature into the game. It seems almost pointless to tell people that it's not their game. They very well know that, we've all experienced Blizzard doing what they want against the will of players. I get very negative vibes off you. All the time. You always have some kind of arguement to make. And you can't say it's because of me or how you respond to me because I've watched you do it in other threads I've not been a part of at all.

And as much as the live version of the female Worgen was Blizzard just going 'here, you got what you asked for now', I thought maybe they would have finished off the alpha model anyway and perhaps made it an option in the game as well. I see threads, constantly, about people wanting the old female Worgen back. I see these people begging and pleaded so much more than the whiners ever did. I don't know if Blizzard are just being lazy (Not giving players what they want or not bothering to dignify anyone about it with a response.) or ignorant about it all. I guess one day we might find out.

Anyway, back on topic: Males should get tails because it's an option, we don't have to have tails on females either, they don't need to add it in however, it would just be a nice little addition. That's all.

Vulp is a friend and she knows I can be blunt with my responses but I always mean well. I still think you misread me....A LOT really. There's been plenty of threads where I've agreed with something and went on my way. Just because I debate with someone doesn't mean it's out of malice, contempt, or negativity. That goes for anyone. A debate is not the same as an argument, which I think you're confusing the two. I participate in a lot of debates. Very seldom have I gotten knee deep in a flame war argument. I don't like arguments but I do enjoy a debate so I can get a grasp on both views rather than just my own, or even many views depending on the topic. Helps engage the mind so long as it's kept civil. Petopia usually is very civil when it comes to debates. But eh...this is neither here nor there so I suppose if you want to keep talking about the personal stuff, I suggest we take it to PMs. If you don't wish to continue it, then we'll just end any discussion of personal matters here. :)

I wish they would finish the alpha female worgen models and give it to us as an option. It's interesting to see the turn of events from a wider viewpoint. When they were first introduced, people whined and complained...they looked to Disney or foxy. They demanded them to be more ferocious. Blizz nodded, gave us exactly what we asked for. Now we're complaining even more cause what we asked for isn't what we imagined and we didn't get allowed the customization we wanted with them.

Red female pandas have tails all the time, don't they? I'm not on beta so I can't look(yet anyway).

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Lol peropia civil with debates :lol:


Anyway males should get tails. Seems stupid only females red pandas would get them.
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cowmuflage wrote:Lol peropia civil with debates :lol:


Anyway males should get tails. Seems stupid only females red pandas would get them.
It's usually civil. Very few times I've actually watched them spiral out of control. x3

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Hrm. I was convinced that you could make a female red panda without a tail. Perhaps I was wrong.

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Hrm. I was convinced that you could make a female red panda without a tail. Perhaps I was wrong.

Do you have beta to check? I'm curious.

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I just double-checked. All of the red fur options on females come with tails.

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Caelan wrote:I just double-checked. All of the red fur options on females come with tails.
Ah thank you. :3 Was curious since I cant check personal.

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I think long tails should be an option for both genders, and I don't think they should be tied to color. You should be able to have short-tailed red pandas and long-tailed black pandas. Why not? It seems silly to limit the choices the way they are doing now.
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GormanGhaste wrote:I think long tails should be an option for both genders, and I don't think they should be tied to color. You should be able to have short-tailed red pandas and long-tailed black pandas. Why not? It seems silly to limit the choices the way they are doing now.
Actually I kinda like that it's just the red ones, because it seems to be an obvious reference to real-world red pandas (which I know aren't true pandas but do have tails and are gorgeous creatures), vs. regular pandas (which have stumpy tails, being bears). I just wish the males had tails too. And maybe make them a tiny bit smaller than the black ones :) Then it'd be like we have two races of Pandaren available. Like if we had the option of Forest and Ice Trolls, or Dark Iron Dwarves, etc.
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Wain wrote:
GormanGhaste wrote:I think long tails should be an option for both genders, and I don't think they should be tied to color. You should be able to have short-tailed red pandas and long-tailed black pandas. Why not? It seems silly to limit the choices the way they are doing now.
Actually I kinda like that it's just the red ones, because it seems to be an obvious reference to real-world red pandas (which I know aren't true pandas but do have tails and are gorgeous creatures), vs. regular pandas (which have stumpy tails, being bears). I just wish the males had tails too. And maybe make them a tiny bit smaller than the black ones :) Then it'd be like we have two races of Pandaren available. Like if we had the option of Forest and Ice Trolls, or Dark Iron Dwarves, etc.
I wish they'd let us be different races like that. That'd be wicked cool! :D

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Wain wrote:
GormanGhaste wrote:I think long tails should be an option for both genders, and I don't think they should be tied to color. You should be able to have short-tailed red pandas and long-tailed black pandas. Why not? It seems silly to limit the choices the way they are doing now.
Actually I kinda like that it's just the red ones, because it seems to be an obvious reference to real-world red pandas (which I know aren't true pandas but do have tails and are gorgeous creatures), vs. regular pandas (which have stumpy tails, being bears). I just wish the males had tails too. And maybe make them a tiny bit smaller than the black ones :) Then it'd be like we have two races of Pandaren available. Like if we had the option of Forest and Ice Trolls, or Dark Iron Dwarves, etc.
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Wain wrote:
GormanGhaste wrote:I think long tails should be an option for both genders, and I don't think they should be tied to color. You should be able to have short-tailed red pandas and long-tailed black pandas. Why not? It seems silly to limit the choices the way they are doing now.
Actually I kinda like that it's just the red ones, because it seems to be an obvious reference to real-world red pandas (which I know aren't true pandas but do have tails and are gorgeous creatures), vs. regular pandas (which have stumpy tails, being bears). I just wish the males had tails too. And maybe make them a tiny bit smaller than the black ones :) Then it'd be like we have two races of Pandaren available. Like if we had the option of Forest and Ice Trolls, or Dark Iron Dwarves, etc.
Suddenly I'm reminded about a Finnish fairytale I used to have on a c-cassette (yes I'm that old) about why bears have stumpy tails. The story goes (I don't know if anyone's interested but here goes) that Bear used to have a long beautiful tails, something between cat and fox, long and fluffy, and it was very proud of it. Then the Fox told the bear that one of the best way to fish is to sit next to an opening in the ice and put your tail it to cach a whole group at once. He said it takes like an hour though. Bear sat down for an hour, it tingled and hurt but Fox said that's just the really big fishes coming in and to wait patiently, so he did. After an hour the Bear got up, and woe! The ice had frozen while he sat and his beautiful tail had detatched and was now embedded in the ice, with only a stump left on the Bear.

I don't have much to say about the actual topic :P I think it's fine as long as I get to have a long-tailed female Pandaren, no matter the colour.

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meh personally they shouldn't have red fur anywhere, let along tails. i dislike the idea of mixing red panda in with them. thats just me *shrug*
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I made a thread about this on the Beta Feedback area. I am very saddened by this senseless decision by Blizzard. I know they want females to be "unique", but I thought them being smaller and cute would do the job. But no, they even gave them tails.

My thread- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4362524221

"Well," I thought, "that's awesome, I can't wait for males to get them!" Once I got my Beta invite, I proceeded to save names (good names, nothing silly) and wait for my fluffy tails to arrive. Lo and behold, a few days later I read their response on the EU forum. I was flabbergasted and appalled! Females only? Ugh! I don't want to put on a rant here, but why only females? No love for males? It just doesn't make any sense to me, especially since it's an unfinished race just yet (barely into Beta now). I guess I don't understand why they're keeping it to females only. Uniqueness just doesn't cut it for me as a major reason to keep it from males. Now, if it caused model issues, then they could just say so. But beyond that, there's no reason for this.

I will still play many Pandaren males (race change ftw) but I will be saddened a bit more by Blizzard for this. I know they have the power and imagination for so much more!


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Again off topic sort of... but some new female Pandaren emotes that... were not at the beginning of the beta. If they were.. then where the crap have I been hahaha. XD

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TheDoomcookie wrote:Again off topic sort of... but some new female Pandaren emotes that... were not at the beginning of the beta. If they were.. then where the crap have I been hahaha. XD

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That cheer, it's too adorable, hahaha. She like, squees in excitement. XD

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