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Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:27 am
by Wain
The new dark brown version of same boar is already tameable. It's a nice brown :)

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:27 am
by Wain
BTW, I'll get the lists up for the first pass of Broken Isle beasts soon. I was going to wait till Suramar, but might just do it.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:15 pm
by Xota
Quiv wrote:
Aroim wrote:a purple boar (not tameable)
...yet... :D

Also how did a boar variant native to another planet in the past end up on Azeroth (and the Broken Isles no less) in the future? Or do we just not ask those questions lol
Magic. Vargath experiment gone wrong. Or morphic fields. Or it wouldn't be the same, but the in-game models are an approximation. Or the similarity in fauna on different planets might be because the in-universe intelligent designers.

I just go with head-canon like those, because official lore often ends up being a trainwreck that will need retcons for its retcons.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:17 pm
by Quiv
Magic works :lol:

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:00 am
by Valnaaros
It is probably jusy Blizz using the most up-to-date boar model they have. I doubt those boars on the Broken Isles are actually the same type from Draenor.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:51 am
by Wain
Valnaaros wrote:It is probably jusy Blizz using the most up-to-date boar model they have. I doubt those boars on the Broken Isles are actually the same type from Draenor.
Yeah, I think you're right. They just view them like game units and use whatever is the closest approximation. I'm glad at least they made a couple of new skins for the Broken Isles ones.

It's a shame they couldn't do a couple of quick mods to the BI ones to differentiate them, like just remove the spikes or something, but even that requires time I guess. On the other hand I'm totally confused by the fact they created a new model file for the BI stags, even though they look almost identical to the originals, except they have skins without swirly patterns (but the same format) and I think some different animations. Very strange, that.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:24 pm
by zedxrgal
Wain wrote:
worgpower wrote:Why isn't "The Skum" tameable, he could be for higher level people solo in the dungeon to tame
Apparently for technical reasons but I don't know what they are.
I think it's because in order to access and kill certain bosses others have to be killed otherwise they will not spawn. So I wonder if by taming it doesn't count as a kill so the others bosses in WC don't spawn. I know back in the day you had to clear everything to get to the final bosses.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:32 pm
by Wain
zedxrgal wrote:
Wain wrote:
worgpower wrote:Why isn't "The Skum" tameable, he could be for higher level people solo in the dungeon to tame
Apparently for technical reasons but I don't know what they are.
I think it's because in order to access and kill certain bosses others have to be killed otherwise they will not spawn. So I wonder if by taming it doesn't count as a kill so the others bosses in WC don't spawn. I know back in the day you had to clear everything to get to the final bosses.
Yeah, that makes sense! Could well be.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:52 pm
by WerebearGuy
I just ran through Wailing Caverns twice, completely curious to see if Skum was necessary for anything. He's not; just a bonus objective. I killed everything EXCEPT for Skum, and was able to complete the dungeon. Asked a friend on the alpha (Curse you blizz for excluding me for the first time!), and he said the same thing; Skum was not needed for any boss to spawn.

I kept an eye on everything that was alive, and nothing extra was around when Skum died in my second run.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:46 am
by Rawr
Maybe that "runaway when Im at low HP" move he does is an inherent behavior and he would have to be re-coded so he wouldn't do that as a hunter pet. And before anyone says "hunter pets dont have inherent anything once tamed" I will point you to the Corpse Scarab that "has a trailing effect when running". :mrgreen:

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:15 am
by Wain
Rawr wrote:Maybe that "runaway when Im at low HP" move he does is an inherent behavior and he would have to be re-coded so he wouldn't do that as a hunter pet. And before anyone says "hunter pets dont have inherent anything once tamed" I will point you to the Corpse Scarab that "has a trailing effect when running". :mrgreen:
I wasn't aware he did that, but you're right, it could be an issue seeing pets do inherit their original ID code. It seems less likely, since lot of creatures are coded to perform various actions in and our of combat but they don't exhibit them as hunter pets. It would be hilarious if your pet turned tail and ran during battle, though :)

Mining Basilisks

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:41 am
by Wain
I can confirm Bambu's discovery (from a couple of patches ago) that a tameable Felslate Basilisk is an occasional spawn from mining Felslate nodes in Legion. They can now be tamed, and as far as I can see mining is still the only source of this colour, though I may have missed another.

In addition I can confirm our previous hypothesis that a purple basilisk might spawn from mining leystone nodes. No big suprise that it's actually called a Leystone Basilisk and it's also tameable. In the case of this skin there are several other basilisks in the Broken Isles that are also purple (including a "Manascale Basilisk" and a second "Leystone Basilisk") and I don't expect that to change, since their names pretty much require them to have this appearance. There's also a Lagoon Basilisk with this look in Azsuna, but that could easily change. This colour is so stunning it probably is a little overused at the moment ;)

Both of them are gorgeous!

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For a chance at a basilisk spawning you don't seem to need any particular mining skill level, just have the profession. My skill level was well under 50 when these both spawned for me.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:34 pm
by Vephriel
That's such an interesting way to tame a pet! :) I love them!

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:27 am
by Bristlenose
Wain wrote:
worgpower wrote:Why isn't "The Skum" tameable, he could be for higher level people solo in the dungeon to tame
Apparently for technical reasons but I don't know what they are.
I'm guessing because as someone else pointed out it is required for completing the dungeon and since it is part of the LFD leveling system it would be a hinderance to those who are trying to finish the dungeon only to get stopped by a hunter taming one of the required bosses.

Of course nothing is to stop them from re-using Skum's skin in another area and making it tamable, unless my guess is wrong and it has something to do with the model itself.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:14 pm
by Wain
Bristlenose wrote:
Wain wrote:
worgpower wrote:Why isn't "The Skum" tameable, he could be for higher level people solo in the dungeon to tame
Of course nothing is to stop them from re-using Skum's skin in another area and making it tamable, unless my guess is wrong and it has something to do with the model itself.
There already are other black stegodons that are tameable :) Some people just seemed to have their hearts set on this character.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:42 pm
by Wain
Two of the really beautiful new owl colours coming in Legion.

The top is a Cursefeather Owl in southern Azsuna. The region has a real Mediterranean feel to it (including olive trees!).

The bottom is the Deepwoods Owl in druidic Val'Sharah.

I think they've done a fantastic job with these.

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Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:20 pm
by WerebearGuy
That blue and gold one is stunning. Purple one is a bit lackluster, but man I'm so taming a blue one.

Are they huge? Or is it just a camera trick? I know Gnomes are laughably tiny, but that's a bit much.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:03 pm
by Wain
WerebearGuy wrote:Are they huge? Or is it just a camera trick? I know Gnomes are laughably tiny, but that's a bit much.
A bit of both. I angled the camera, but also on the purple one I didn't dismiss it and resummon it, so it was larger than it would have been had I done that. It seems pets aren't always shrinking to their final sizes immediately upon taming in the Alpha.

The screenshots also don't seem to be using the best quality. They're a bit dull and foggy compared to what I was seeing on-screen but it's the best I could do.

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:57 pm
by Lisaara
Oh man I wish the druid bird forms looked that beautiful

Re: Legion pet lists

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:47 am
by pop
What if Porcupine + Beaver + New Giant Rat model made into a new group; rodent, yay or nay?