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Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:13 pm
by Chrizesu
You know, there's this company called Perfect World International which could possibly kick blizzard's butt if it was known more publicly.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:17 pm
by Saturo
Chrizesu wrote:You know, there's this company called Perfect World International which could possibly kick blizzard's butt if it was known more publicly.
Perfect World and WoW are completely different. Perfect World is more of a social game, WoW is an RPG.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:22 pm
by Chrizesu
Saturo wrote:
Chrizesu wrote:You know, there's this company called Perfect World International which could possibly kick blizzard's butt if it was known more publicly.
Perfect World and WoW are completely different. Perfect World is more of a social game, WoW is an RPG.
I'm talking about the company. They made some games that I actually consider better then wow, but I have no one to play them with.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:24 pm
by Saturo
Chrizesu wrote:
Saturo wrote:
Chrizesu wrote:You know, there's this company called Perfect World International which could possibly kick blizzard's butt if it was known more publicly.
Perfect World and WoW are completely different. Perfect World is more of a social game, WoW is an RPG.
I'm talking about the company. They made some games that I actually consider better then wow, but I have no one to play them with.
I didn't know that they have made games other than Perfect World.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:28 pm
by Chrizesu
Saturo wrote:I didn't know that they have made games other than Perfect World.
In fact, they just released battle of the immortals.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:34 pm
by Saturo
Chrizesu wrote:
Saturo wrote:I didn't know that they have made games other than Perfect World.
In fact, they just released battle of the immortals.
*Gets curious*
*Looks it up on Wikipedia*
Cash Shop

The released game will feature a Cash Shop in which players may purchase in-game items with real-life currency. The game's creators have stated that the Cash Shop will "enable players to pay for convenience, but not to pay for power."[3]
However, in execution, the cash shop has proven to not only provide power for cash but, large amounts of power. From powerful pets well beyond the normal means of nonpaying customers, to charms allowing gear enhancements. Player vs. player game play is greatly influenced by money purchases, providing massive advantages to those who pay large sums of money.
Not my kind of game.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:27 pm
by Fael
Teigan wrote:I don't know if this has been posted here, but I found it on my Eldre'thalas guild forum. It is FTW.
http://greyshades.wordpress.com/2010/07 ... -blizzard/
I really loved this letter. Cute way to bring attention to the issue.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:58 pm
by Ryai
Saturo wrote:
Chrizesu wrote:
Saturo wrote:I didn't know that they have made games other than Perfect World.
In fact, they just released battle of the immortals.
*Gets curious*
*Looks it up on Wikipedia*
Cash Shop

The released game will feature a Cash Shop in which players may purchase in-game items with real-life currency. The game's creators have stated that the Cash Shop will "enable players to pay for convenience, but not to pay for power."[3]
However, in execution, the cash shop has proven to not only provide power for cash but, large amounts of power. From powerful pets well beyond the normal means of nonpaying customers, to charms allowing gear enhancements. Player vs. player game play is greatly influenced by money purchases, providing massive advantages to those who pay large sums of money.
Not my kind of game.
Yeah. Not mine either.

And people complained about sparkle horse >_>

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:07 pm
by Sarayana
Saturo wrote:
Chrizesu wrote:In fact, they just released battle of the immortals.
*Gets curious*
*Looks it up on Wikipedia*
Cash Shop

The released game will feature a Cash Shop in which players may purchase in-game items with real-life currency. The game's creators have stated that the Cash Shop will "enable players to pay for convenience, but not to pay for power."[3]
However, in execution, the cash shop has proven to not only provide power for cash but, large amounts of power. From powerful pets well beyond the normal means of nonpaying customers, to charms allowing gear enhancements. Player vs. player game play is greatly influenced by money purchases, providing massive advantages to those who pay large sums of money.
Not my kind of game.
Particularly in light of this line:
Several Battle of the Immortals encounters and zones are based on player vs player combat.
So several zones and encounters in the game are pvp-focused, yet they allow pvp to be grossly imbalanced by factors external to the game? I can already see the head-bashing.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:09 pm
by Saturo
Sarayana wrote:
Saturo wrote:
Chrizesu wrote:In fact, they just released battle of the immortals.
*Gets curious*
*Looks it up on Wikipedia*
Cash Shop

The released game will feature a Cash Shop in which players may purchase in-game items with real-life currency. The game's creators have stated that the Cash Shop will "enable players to pay for convenience, but not to pay for power."[3]
However, in execution, the cash shop has proven to not only provide power for cash but, large amounts of power. From powerful pets well beyond the normal means of nonpaying customers, to charms allowing gear enhancements. Player vs. player game play is greatly influenced by money purchases, providing massive advantages to those who pay large sums of money.
Not my kind of game.
Particularly in light of this line:
Several Battle of the Immortals encounters and zones are based on player vs player combat.
So several zones and encounters in the game are pvp-focused, yet they allow pvp to be grossly imbalanced by factors external to the game? I can already see the head-bashing.
That's why I was so scared a while back with the sparklehorse. First it was pets. Now it's mounts. Just a matter of time until we get +580ArP leg enchants for JUST 20€.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:23 pm
by cowmuflage
I don't think it will end up like that i mean most MMOs that do do cash shops that sell weps not vanity things like wow does tend to do it for the cash and tend to be shitty games in the first place so thats why the NEED the extra cash cos not enuff players are playing. That game sounds shit BTW.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:25 pm
by Saturo
cowmuflage wrote:I don't think it will end up like that i mean most MMOs that do do cash shops that sell weps not vanity things like wow does tend to do it for the cash and tend to be shitty games in the first place so thats why the NEED the extra cash cos not enuff players are playing. That game sounds shit BTW.
Any game that lets outside resources play in sucks.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:27 pm
by Ryai
Saturo wrote:that's why I was so scared a while back with the sparklehorse. First it was pets. Now it's mounts. Just a matter of time until we get +580ArP leg enchants for JUST 20€.
And remember what Blizz has stated repeatedly- that is not a road they want to go down/nor path. And this whole Real ID scare that Blizz has adverted, has shown Blizzard listen to us, the players, maybe not when we really want, but when we really need them to listen.

So yeah I doubt it, sparkle horses and lil KT's are vastly different from enchants. That and, Blizzard knows they'd lose SO MUCH PLAYER BASE if they did it.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:32 pm
by Kalliope
Ryai wrote:So yeah I doubt it, sparkle horses and lil KT's are vastly different from enchants. That and, Blizzard knows they'd lose SO MUCH PLAYER BASE if they did it.
Plus, didn't part of those proceeds (at least on the minipets) go to charity?

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:33 pm
by Saturo
Kalliope wrote:
Ryai wrote:So yeah I doubt it, sparkle horses and lil KT's are vastly different from enchants. That and, Blizzard knows they'd lose SO MUCH PLAYER BASE if they did it.
Plus, didn't part of those proceeds (at least on the minipets) go to charity?
For a limited time. Still a good thing to do.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:37 pm
by Ryai
Saturo wrote:
Kalliope wrote:
Ryai wrote:So yeah I doubt it, sparkle horses and lil KT's are vastly different from enchants. That and, Blizzard knows they'd lose SO MUCH PLAYER BASE if they did it.
Plus, didn't part of those proceeds (at least on the minipets) go to charity?
For a limited time. Still a good thing to do.
Yeah but they generated several million for the charity didn't they?

I still hated when people insulted others over buying the pet just cause of the donation. It's why alot of people don't donate because they think people will snub them if all they can spare is a measibly 5 bucks.

Well evidently those five bucks became a shitload of cash.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:42 pm
by Kalliope
Ryai wrote:
Saturo wrote:
Kalliope wrote:Plus, didn't part of those proceeds (at least on the minipets) go to charity?
For a limited time. Still a good thing to do.
Yeah but they generated several million for the charity didn't they?

I still hated when people insulted others over buying the pet just cause of the donation. It's why alot of people don't donate because they think people will snub them if all they can spare is a measibly 5 bucks.

Well evidently those five bucks became a shitload of cash.
O_o That's dumb. If people took issue with the purchase of the pet, it should have been over buying pixels, not the charity part of it. That's the part that truly makes the purchase worthwhile (at least IMHO).

Man, people never cease to amaze me. Any donation is better than none.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:33 pm
by cowmuflage
Really i think its nice of blizz to give to charity they don't need to but they still do and i like that.

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:08 pm
by Jangalian
"In a move that is sure to generate just as much discussion as the initial decision itself, Mike Morhaime, co-founder and CEO of Blizzard Entertainment, has released a statement that says "real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums."

Morhaime says that Blizzard has been "constantly monitoring the feedback" given by the community and that they are "driven 100% by the desire to find ways to make our community areas more welcoming for players and encourage more constructive conversations about our games."

The other upgrades to the forums will still apply, such as rating posts up or down and conversation threading.

This will, no doubt, make many members of the community quite happy.

The full statement (updated) after the break.




Mike Morhaime
Hello everyone,

I'd like to take some time to speak with all of you regarding our desire to make the Blizzard forums a better place for players to discuss our games. We've been constantly monitoring the feedback you've given us, as well as internally discussing your concerns about the use of real names on our forums. As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.

It's important to note that we still remain committed to improving our forums. Our efforts are driven 100% by the desire to find ways to make our community areas more welcoming for players and encourage more constructive conversations about our games. We will still move forward with new forum features such as conversation threading, the ability to rate posts up or down, improved search functionality, and more. We will still move forward with new forum features such as the ability to rate posts up or down, post highlighting based on rating, improved search functionality, and more. However, when we launch the new StarCraft II forums that include these new features, you will be posting by your StarCraft II Battle.net character name + character code, not your real name. The upgraded World of Warcraft forums with these new features will launch close to the release of Cataclysm, and also will not require your real name.

I want to make sure it's clear that our plans for the forums are completely separate from our plans for the optional in-game Real ID system now live with World of Warcraft and launching soon with StarCraft II. We believe that the powerful communications functionality enabled by Real ID, such as cross-game and cross-realm chat, make Battle.net a great place for players to stay connected to real-life friends and family while playing Blizzard games. And of course, you'll still be able to keep your relationships at the anonymous, character level if you so choose when you communicate with other players in game. Over time, we will continue to evolve Real ID on Battle.net to add new and exciting functionality within our games for players who decide to use the feature.

In closing, I want to point out that our connection with our community has always been and will always be extremely important to us. We strongly believe that Every Voice Matters, ( http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html ) and we feel fortunate to have a community that cares so passionately about our games. We will always appreciate the feedback and support of our players, which has been a key to Blizzard's success from the beginning.

Mike Morhaime
CEO & Cofounder
Blizzard Entertainment
"

Source ---> http://www.wow.com/2010/07/09/mike-morh ... ial-forum/

Re: Blizzard to take away any anonymity you had left

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:57 pm
by Chrizesu
Actually all free mmos took the pet site/zynga approach to funding their projects. And I actually love the fact one can get through the entire game without paying a dime.