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Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:56 am
by Serenith
Silly how Sambas isn't with Lion, he is under "Alliancelionmount". *growls* He was the first thing I had to find in WMV when I started using it and I had to google it. Lol
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:35 am
by Nili
dear god, this wmv is so crazy x.x
Where do you find red lynx's ?
I'm nearly done with Ael's second one, I just need this silly kitty
edit found it.
Ugh I wish I could manually organize my list lol
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:06 pm
by Feralclaw
WMV is confusing. Thought Frostsaber was spelled Frostsaber in WMV, but no. It had to be Frostsabre. The tigers took a while to find too. So did the Direwolfs.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 pm
by Rhyela
This is sort-of related since I tinker with WMV now and again, but how do you all get backgrounds for signatures? Are you just taking in-game screen shots?
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:49 am
by Serenith
Rhyela wrote:This is sort-of related since I tinker with WMV now and again, but how do you all get backgrounds for signatures? Are you just taking in-game screen shots?
I take in-game screenshots, and very rarely use Blizzard's concept art/some random image I find online. But very rarely do I do that cause the screenshots work well for me.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:46 am
by Rhyela
Anyone else run into issues where certain models, when trying to open them in an editing program, have a chunk of stuff missing from them? I have been trying to save a lynx cat model to open up in GIMP, but it always has a big piece of its skin missing. The only file extension it doesn't do that with is .jpg, but then .jpg has this dark blue background, whereas the other layers don't have a background at all (or have a checkered one), and I have no idea how to get rid of that dark blue background with .jpg layers. *pulls hair out*
I'm a pretty big amateur when it comes to this stuff. I wish I had Photoshop, but I'm kinda poor atm.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:20 am
by Feralclaw
Rhyela wrote:Anyone else run into issues where certain models, when trying to open them in an editing program, have a chunk of stuff missing from them? I have been trying to save a lynx cat model to open up in GIMP, but it always has a big piece of its skin missing. The only file extension it doesn't do that with is .jpg, but then .jpg has this dark blue background, whereas the other layers don't have a background at all (or have a checkered one), and I have no idea how to get rid of that dark blue background with .jpg layers. *pulls hair out*
I'm a pretty big amateur when it comes to this stuff. I wish I had Photoshop, but I'm kinda poor atm.
Once, when doing Qinni's sig, I used the chimera and half his body was missing.
That time I did nothing about it, but now when this happens to me I use the color dropper on nearby colors and carefully paint over it. Hope this helps!
Also, the checkered backgrounds are transparent backgrounds, which means you won't see the dark blue background, say, when you post a picture from WMV with a checkered background.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:23 am
by Serenith
Yeah that happens. I have to save it as a .jpg and just remove the background. I don't know how gimp works, but I just use a selection tool like the magic wand and remove the model from the background that way. And if your having difficulty removing the model cause the colors are similar to the BG, try changing the WMV background color to solid bright green or white, it makes it much easier to target the unwanted background. The .png only works sometimes for me... most of the time it makes shoulders/horns/ears/body parts in general transparent. wish I could help you with GIMP, but I don't use that program.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:29 am
by Sam
Rhyela wrote:Anyone else run into issues where certain models, when trying to open them in an editing program, have a chunk of stuff missing from them? I have been trying to save a lynx cat model to open up in GIMP, but it always has a big piece of its skin missing. The only file extension it doesn't do that with is .jpg, but then .jpg has this dark blue background, whereas the other layers don't have a background at all (or have a checkered one), and I have no idea how to get rid of that dark blue background with .jpg layers. *pulls hair out*
I'm a pretty big amateur when it comes to this stuff. I wish I had Photoshop, but I'm kinda poor atm.
I just tried, and it's happening to me too. I saved it as a .png and as a .bmp. Both have chunks of the lynx's mane missing when I open the files in Gimp. I don't know why or how to fix it, so I can't help, sorry... but at least it's not just you.
The checkered background isn't really part of the image, btw; you can put a background layer in there and it won't show.
The only way to get rid of the blue background in the .jpg is to erase/delete it which is fiddly work what with all the furry bits spiking out around the edges of the lynx.
But it's certainly doable.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:11 am
by Serenith
Not sure if this is gonna be helpful or a waste... but here it goes. Maybe it will help someone in the future. But it seems Rhyela is having issues with how she is handling her images a bit... so I thought this could help them out.
So I am starting off with a .bmp image of a pose of king krush...
I said just before that I use .jpg ....my bad. I actually never use .jpg! Whoops. I usually always save my images in .bmp format. Spirit beasts I am known for using .png but thats about it.
- Krush with a white background.png (329.55 KiB) Viewed 3710 times
I wrote in some stuff in red... this stage is fairly simple.
Next I need to remove the white background that I had selected in WMV. Its no good if I want to overlap, so it must go:
- krush on a transparent BG.png (365.06 KiB) Viewed 3710 times
I did this by using a magic wand tool, and setting the tolerance to 1... this is a cheap quick method to remove a BG. Then I hit inverse, and copied. I like to start from a fresh canvas, so I create my desired size and paste Krush onto that. I could have skipped that step and just hit "cut" before "inverse", but I'm crazy.
Now I needed a BG to give him a setting so I found this:
- the background.png (447.43 KiB) Viewed 3710 times
Using that rectangle marquee tool I just copied and pasted this image in the layer under Krush. That way its behind him not covering him.
Here he is with his new setting, looking pleased with himself as though he caused the wreckage. (Typical, taking credit for Deathwing's work!
)
- krush has a setting now.png (442.03 KiB) Viewed 3710 times
Final stages happen here... I could go into more detail, but I was really just trying to help you simply remove a background and stuff. Mighta already gotten too detailed as it is. Oops. Hehe.
- Birth of a krush siggy.png (207.96 KiB) Viewed 3710 times
And of course, here is the sig version. Anyone who wants to use it can. Not exactly my best work but whatever =P
- rawr.png (170.04 KiB) Viewed 3715 times
Apologies for any typos in the images. I made them rather fast. D:
Hope it helps someone!
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:42 pm
by Rhyela
Okay.....I'm going to give this a shot! Admittedly, I am 99.7% unfamiliar with all the tools in GIMP. I think I've pretty much just used "move layer" and "rotate layer".
Thank you so much for that explanation, Serenith. I'm going to try to get a lot of practice and get better. You went way out of your way to make that guide easy to follow, and I greatly appreciate it.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:54 pm
by Serenith
Rhyela wrote:Okay.....I'm going to give this a shot! Admittedly, I am 99.7% unfamiliar with all the tools in GIMP. I think I've pretty much just used "move layer" and "rotate layer".
Thank you so much for that explanation, Serenith. I'm going to try to get a lot of practice and get better. You went way out of your way to make that guide easy to follow, and I greatly appreciate it.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:15 pm
by Rhyela
Okay, I have officially concluded that GIMP just sucks. That, or I am hopelessly stupid and should never come within 100 yards of a photo editing program, ever again. I used the fuzzy select tool and removed the blue area, but then it just became white instead of transparent, and still covered up my background. Grrrr! I either need to just save up money for Photoshop and hope I don't epicfail with it, too, or give up altogether.
This is as far as I got before giving up.
As you can see, the lynx refuses to be on a transparent background. He must be on an opaque background and irritate me beyond measure.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:18 pm
by Serenith
Not sure this will help... but when you are removing the background are you just selecting "cut"? Are you seeing the checkerboard?
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:21 pm
by Serenith
If that is so, then make a second layer, place it under the lynx layer, make sure that layer is transparent. When you cut the background out if should be transparent at that point. At least it would be in Photoshop.... that or selecting the image and inverse the marquee. Then hit copy and create a new file with the desired size and be sure its a transparent BG. As I said, not sure how GIMP works.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:35 pm
by Sam
Rhyela wrote:Okay, I have officially concluded that GIMP just sucks. That, or I am hopelessly stupid and should never come within 100 yards of a photo editing program, ever again. I used the fuzzy select tool and removed the blue area, but then it just became white instead of transparent, and still covered up my background. Grrrr! I either need to just save up money for Photoshop and hope I don't epicfail with it, too, or give up altogether.
This is as far as I got before giving up.
As you can see, the lynx refuses to be on a transparent background. He must be on an opaque background and irritate me beyond measure.
I think Gimp is needlessly difficult. I had the same exact problem. What I did as a workaround was fuzzy-select the background, then do Select>Inverse, so the cat was selected instead. Copy/paste it to its own layer, then delete the entire layer with the blue background on it.
I still had some blue pixels around the edges that had to be erased (I zoomed in to 400% and did them with the 1 pixel eraser brush). There might be an easier way to do this but it worked. I'd rather use .png or .bmp though, and just have a clear background to begin with.
When I was working on my sig, I had the disappearing-texture problem with the .png on my brain bug's brain. The rest looked fine, but the brain was a solid color. So I hit print screen in WMV and pasted that into a Gimp image, then selected the brain area and pasted as a new layer over my .png. Funky workaround but once I had it positioned right and merged the layers, it looked perfect.
Gimp can be a pain, the best thing I can say is don't expect it to work like Photoshop, because for whatever the designers' reasons, they did things their own way... and remember that it's FREE! and that there are tutorials and stuff out there if you get stuck.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:44 pm
by Serenith
Sam wrote:Rhyela wrote:Okay, I have officially concluded that GIMP just sucks. That, or I am hopelessly stupid and should never come within 100 yards of a photo editing program, ever again. I used the fuzzy select tool and removed the blue area, but then it just became white instead of transparent, and still covered up my background. Grrrr! I either need to just save up money for Photoshop and hope I don't epicfail with it, too, or give up altogether.
This is as far as I got before giving up.
As you can see, the lynx refuses to be on a transparent background. He must be on an opaque background and irritate me beyond measure.
I think Gimp is needlessly difficult. I had the same exact problem. What I did as a workaround was fuzzy-select the background, then do Select>Inverse, so the cat was selected instead. Copy/paste it to its own layer, then delete the entire layer with the blue background on it.
I still had some blue pixels around the edges that had to be erased (I zoomed in to 400% and did them with the 1 pixel eraser brush). There might be an easier way to do this but it worked. I'd rather use .png or .bmp though, and just have a clear background to begin with.
When I was working on my sig, I had the disappearing-texture problem with the .png on my brain bug's brain. The rest looked fine, but the brain was a solid color. So I hit print screen in WMV and pasted that into a Gimp image, then selected the brain area and pasted as a new layer over my .png. Funky workaround but once I had it positioned right and merged the layers, it looked perfect.
Gimp can be a pain, the best thing I can say is don't expect it to work like Photoshop, because for whatever the designers' reasons, they did things their own way... and remember that it's FREE! and that there are tutorials and stuff out there if you get stuck.
I've never used GIMP, but what your saying is exactly how I do it and was recommending it. I never use the same file... I always start fresh by copying the image (without its background) onto a blank transparent canvas. I prefer it that way even if there is a simpler way out there... it also prevents me from accidentally writing over the original file incase I want to use it again.
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:45 pm
by Rhyela
The fuzzy select tool (magic wand) has four different modes: 1) Replace the current selection; 2) Add to the current selection; 3) Subtract from the current selection; and 4) Intersect with the current selection. I have no idea what the differences are. I just go with the first one, click on the layer so that the lynx has a selection around it, and hit delete. The dark blue space is deleted and the lynx remains, but he is now on a white background instead of blue. Woo.
I have also tried using the fuzzy select tool (each mode), copying, then deleting that layer, and then pasting what I thought I copied (the lynx) onto the new layer. It instead apparently copied the dark blue crap that I loathe, and left a lynx-shaped hole.
Honestly, I truly appreciate all your help, but I just don't think I'm going to get this. GIMP is impossibly impossible.
EDIT: I hope you're all sitting down, because I think I may have finally gotten it!!! I used the Select - Invert, then picked mode 3 of the fuzzy tool, copied, deleted the layer, and pasted on a new layer (and then "anchored" it), and VOILA!!!
Squeeeee! You guys are freakin awesome!!! Flying kitty in the sun is happy!
Edit again: Now I'll just have to figure out to save it to where it's not enormous, and fiddle with fonts and all that, but for now.....I'm just glad I finally got rid of that horrid blue background. :3
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:53 pm
by Feralclaw
Rhyela wrote:The fuzzy select tool (magic wand) has four different modes: 1) Replace the current selection; 2) Add to the current selection; 3) Subtract from the current selection; and 4) Intersect with the current selection. I have no idea what the differences are. I just go with the first one, click on the layer so that the lynx has a selection around it, and hit delete. The dark blue space is deleted and the lynx remains, but he is now on a white background instead of blue. Woo.
I have also tried using the fuzzy select tool (each mode), copying, then deleting that layer, and then pasting what I thought I copied (the lynx) onto the new layer. It instead apparently copied the dark blue crap that I loathe, and left a lynx-shaped hole.
Honestly, I truly appreciate all your help, but I just don't think I'm going to get this. GIMP is impossibly impossible.
Have you tried inverting the selection after selecting it?
Re: Question about WoW model viewer?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:58 pm
by Sam
Hmm, well, there's a free trial download on Adobe Photoshop's site I think....
And earlier versions are still available and cheaper than the newest...
And... *whispers* I hear you can d/l it from a torrent.
Myself, I am leery of torrents and for good reason. But just throwing that out there...
But back to Gimp, did you try selecting the inverse of the blue? Which would be the cat.
And then paste that bad boy into his own layer.