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Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:20 pm
by Zeilla8
Ket Shi wrote:I can actually give some context to this. When Blizzard's artists need to come up with a sense of scale, they use a naked human model and place it temporarily on the map to get a feel for how high to make objects.

That creature was called something like a "Three-assed Wild Mantaur" and was a placeholder model rigged up as a rough size and scale estimate for the Tol'vir race before they were finished. The tol'vir are big lion-centaur dudes, and so the Mantaur was rigged up to look somewhat like a centaur.

Mantaurs were once dotted over much of Uldum, helping the developers get a sense of scale. Now that the tol'vir have a finished model, these majestic creatures have sadly faded into extinction.

Ahhh, that makes more sense! We thought they were camels cuz you could mount them. And YESSSSSS they were called "Three-assed Wild Mantaur". Oh man we died laughing when we found these things. :D

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:22 pm
by Saturo
I wound if they were tameable... Presumably, a pet you can use as a vehicle, IE mount, should be ridable after being tamed too...

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:04 pm
by Teigan
Mantaurs were once dotted over much of Uldum, helping the developers get a sense of scale. Now that the tol'vir have a finished model, these majestic creatures have sadly faded into extinction.
*pictures a Mantaur reserve, for endangered placeholders*

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:09 pm
by Vephriel
Bahaha...a Mantaur reserve. xD

Do we want to ask how they'd reproduce? :lol:

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:15 pm
by Kalliope
Vephriel wrote:Do we want to ask how they'd reproduce? :lol:
NO. :lol:

But we'll probably ask anyway. ;)

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that mounting of some sort is involved. *nod*

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:15 pm
by Azunara
Vephriel wrote:Bahaha...a Mantaur reserve. xD

Do we want to ask how they'd reproduce? :lol:

...Ohfel. The image. ...Ew....ew...GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD.

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:55 pm
by tolson12
OMG!! XD This is hilarious! rofl!

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:28 pm
by Makoes
...I have to words to diuscribe the feelings of laughter, refolve, fasination, and ... oh god, there is nothing to discribe the epicness of this find...no words...

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:18 pm
by Sukurachi
I withdraw my comments and apologize for starting a ruckus

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:23 pm
by Saturo
Sukurachi wrote:Ok, there's a lot of hilarity in this thread, which is great. the pic IS hysterical and amply demonstrates Blizzard's twisted sense of humor (even if we are not, technically, supposed to be privy to it, in this case).

But I just have to say: what's with all the "eww, gross" comments?

Grow up, people.

Let me guess, had those been three FEMALE NPCs used to create the placeholder, there would only have been comments about it being "hawt".
I would still say "Eww gross!", but not because of homophobia, but because of how they put the thing together. xD

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:30 pm
by Slickrock
Sukurachi wrote:Ok, there's a lot of hilarity in this thread, which is great. the pic IS hysterical and amply demonstrates Blizzard's twisted sense of humor (even if we are not, technically, supposed to be privy to it, in this case).

But I just have to say: what's with all the "eww, gross" comments?

Grow up, people.

Let me guess, had those been three FEMALE NPCs used to create the placeholder, there would only have been comments about it being "hawt".

THINK about your comments.
Sorry, but I need to rant here.

Every time you say "eww gross" to an image like that, you are in effect making a homophobic comment.
You might not be consciously thinking it.

No,you aren't sitting there going "eww fags".
But in the end, what is it that you find so "eww gross" about the image?

It's the fact that you are making a connection with intimate male contact = gay.

And guess what?
That's a form of homophobia.
And it's the most insidious form. Because you will all deny being homophobic. You will all say "I have x-number of gay friends".

Except in the end, you made a comment that betrays your homophobia, your acceptance that it's ok to think gay stuff is "icky".

/rant off


But those pics are hysterical.
And the name they gave the "creature" is pure gold.

I'll say one thing.

It's also patently unfair to attack anyone who felt uncomfortable with those image in the way you just have. You label anyone who isn't comfortable with and in total acceptance and support of your lifestyle with your own hate word.

This is not the way to gain more acceptance. It just buries biases deeper.

Edit: And I'd suggest the admins lock this thread, as it's about to get ugly.

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:38 pm
by Kalliope
Saturo wrote:I would still say "Eww gross!", but not because of homophobia, but because of how they put the thing together. xD
^
This.

Can't imagine that the guy in the middle is very comfortable, regardless of his sexual persuasion.

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:51 pm
by Sukurachi
I withdraw my comments and apologize for starting a ruckus

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:54 pm
by Kalliope
Eurgh.

This is not the appropriate forum for this sort of discussion regardless of anyone's states of mind or wording choices.

So please drop it or at least take it to PMs. Thanks! :)

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:10 pm
by Vephriel
If the conversation continues to head in an aggressive direction then, yes, I will lock this thread. Discussion to such topics is not forbidden, but please be less confrontational when addressing it. :)

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:07 pm
by Mindsprocket
Sukurachi wrote: Every time you say "eww gross" to an image like that, you are in effect making a homophobic comment.
I just would like to say that we're talking about a mount built of human bodies. And that, to me, is about as gross as the human centipede. I really don't get why homosexuality should have anything to do with that. That the mount is made of naked males is not enough for me to label it as "gay". On the contrary, to me doing that actually seems like an insult to gay people. :| So, honest question, if it was made of females and people called it gross (and I certainly would), would you also call that homophobic? Or would naked women not qualify for that?

And I hope this doesn't sound too confrontaional, I sometimes have problems with hitting the right tone. ;) I just find Sukurachi's post kind of interesting because it came completely out of nowhere for me.

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:29 pm
by cowmuflage
HEY! i found the human centipede to be a very funny movie thank you very much. It was ment to be funny right? cos it was :D

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:38 pm
by Zeilla8
It never crossed my mind that this was a gay looking picture at all. I don't look at WoW toons as sexual, regardless of them being male or female. The people that reacted to this as being gross, well it's probably because the smaller character has his head inside the intestines of the front character. As far as I understand anatomy, you can't put a persons head inside the bumb of another person. Again, the 'gross' part comes from identifying how uncomfortable that would be, if it was possible. I mean, the poor guy couldnt even breathe.

I guess this is gonna sound confrontational, but I'm flabbergasted that you thought of the comments on this picture as homophobic. I don't see anything sexual about the picture at all.

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:11 pm
by Teigan
The gross factor, which to me is part of the hilarity, comes from the fact that their flesh appears to be welded together...if it was female, it would still be hilariously horrifying!
On that note.....there have to females of the "species" somewhere...right? Or, perhaps they reproduce by budding...actually...that seems more likely! Ponder that for a bit.

It didn't occur to me that they were gay, straight or anything else...

On a side note, I feel for people who are discriminated against for any reason. That kind of treatment can make a person more sensitive, and perhaps see offense where none was meant to exist. I can say I'm guilty of that, myself, on certain topics. Note: this statement is not meant to offend, but is a clumsy attempt to offer understanding and empathy. That is all. Please don't kill me. :D

Re: Before there were Camels...there were, um, what IS THAT?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:13 pm
by Kalliope
Teigan wrote:The gross factor, which to me is part of the hilarity, comes from the fact that their flesh appears to be welded together...if it was female, it would still be hilariously horrifying
^
This.

And I still can't imagine that being the center person would be very comfortable.