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Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:29 am
by Wassa
Blah, I just released my Soriid and was thinking of a pet to keep and decided on the teal scorpid skin that hasn't been seen in beta yet. Tamed the first one I see and log out for the night. Afterwords I see this topic and check my armory to see which one I tamed, and I tamed a swarmer. D= Guess tomorrow I'm going back to get a creeper instead.

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:53 am
by Worba
Wain wrote:
Darknez wrote:OK I just tried copying the character again. It knew that I'd logged off in Thunder Bluff, and that was after taming the pet. Pet is still gone, and the first thing it does when I log on is opens the pet stable view (whilst in the middle of the grave yard) with the 2 remaining pets. Blue scorpids gone completely!
Are you absolutely certain it was the Silithid Creeper and not the Silithid Swarmer that you tamed, though?

The Swarmer id # is the one that has changed into a worker-type for a quest in Cataclysm (when they probably should have used a new id), and should therefore be the one that disappears on transfer since those things probably aren't even classed as beasts.
The Creeper NPC seems to be entirely gone from the game, but is still in the database under the old blue model, so should survive the transfer.

Either way, it's clearly a bug that a legitimate pet should disappear entirely from the stable. If people report it, hopefully they'll either add that model back and use a new id for the new swarmer, or add a check for translating any swarmer pets to the same id as the creeper.
I have one of these on my female dwarf however I tamed it so long ago that I can't remember which model it was pre-tame, and I'd hate to dismiss it just on a guess, but neither do I want to just hold my breath and wait for Blizz to fix this...

I was thinking we should be able to verify our pet's NPC ID with a script; however all I could find was UnitGUID, which gives me the NPC ID of the creature (3250 for creepers, 3252 for swarmers)... but when I try that on my own tamed turqoise scorpid it doesn't come even close... does anyone know how to get your pet's NPC ID other than using an addon like npc scan (I hate taking on new addons for simple things I should be able to code myself)?

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:08 am
by Vephriel
You can verify which pet you have by looking on your WoW armory. :)

Go to your armory page, then click on your Talents tab. On that page your pets will be listed on the right hand side with their own talents. While on this page go up to your browser and go View -> Page Source. This will bring up the HTML code of that page. It should be fairly easy to spot your pet's names within this and beside them will have the original NPC ID and name.

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:26 am
by Darknez
We need the armory for beta accounts so we can see what pets may have been "transferred" into :P

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:36 am
by Worba
Vephriel wrote:You can verify which pet you have by looking on your WoW armory. :)

Go to your armory page, then click on your Talents tab. On that page your pets will be listed on the right hand side with their own talents. While on this page go up to your browser and go View -> Page Source. This will bring up the HTML code of that page. It should be fairly easy to spot your pet's names within this and beside them will have the original NPC ID and name.
Awesome, thanks ... and, my scorpid was indeed a creeper, yay (I figured it would be, since I'm lazy and wouldn't have wanted to bother with the little guys nipping at my toes while I tamed their mom...)

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:45 am
by RakuRaku
That's a gorgeous pet. Are the green scorpians changing into those and keeping their IDs?

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:01 pm
by Darknez
If you're referring to the tan coloured Silithid Worker model - then so far it appears that if you tame the current Silithid Swarmer, it is gone from your stables in beta. Might be a 'bug' (no pun intended) - might be intentional.

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:56 am
by Darknez
Right.. found him.
Looks like he went the way of the "what was tameable" Snake. It's pet icon is invisible. I had to train "Call Pet 2" to get the ability to summon him.

Take a look...

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:07 pm
by bluddy
that is amazing.......damn don't want to get dissapointed again whe blizz removezs it though :(

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:15 pm
by Darknez
Well it has no abilities, can't be fed etc... so it won't be a very useful pet as it stands :(

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:17 pm
by Qraljar
Damn! It looks awesome, please let it stay Blizz. PLEASE. Finally we get silithid wasps, now it's time for the worker too!

Bah. Anxiety kicks in again, I'm such a damn pessimist. But as with the brainbugs. I really hate to see this removed too. And even if it isn't useful I will love it a 100% if I ever have it. Thanks alot though Darknez :hug:

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:18 pm
by Darknez
;) no problem. I've tamed it on a couple of hunters as it stands - so if it ever makes it into Cataclysm on release it doesn't really take up a pet slot anyway! :P
At the very least - the teal scorpids have survived.

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:25 pm
by Qraljar
Darknez wrote:;) no problem. I've tamed it on a couple of hunters as it stands - so if it ever makes it into Cataclysm on release it doesn't really take up a pet slot anyway! :P
At the very least - the teal scorpids have survived.

As cruel as it sounds, I never cared for the scorpid. I'm a pure Silithid lover. Insect too but I'd much rather have a swarmer than another color scorpid.

As it stands now, I HOPE more Silithid models join the fray. They need more love, I hope the swarmer and wasp make it to live. Then I have Silithid Ravager (bronze ravager) Silithid Wasp (bronze) and Silithid Swarmer (bronze). If just the brainbugs didn't run extinct. Well who knows? Maybe in some other expansion/patch they will be tamable. I mean, if Blizzard reveals all pets as tamables in one expansion, then what new things are there for hunters in another exp/patch?

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:29 pm
by bluddy
i'll be happy enough with the swarmer. next thing to do lvl an additional huinter to twenty for the swarmer and creeper

i want my swarmer!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:33 pm
by Qraljar
This'll be my pet stables before Cata's launch (if the new Swarmer Model does come through as pets, I hope : ( )

Silithid Ravager
Silithid Swarmer
Sapphire Hive Wasp
Sapphire Hive Drone ( placeholder for new bronze wasp, if it DOES get through)
Druid Skin Stormcrow, named after my awesome girlfriend ;)

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:49 pm
by Jesswyn
omg omg ive been waiting for this silithid model for years! I really wanted the teal colored one (Silithid Harvester model from the barrens) but this'll do just fine :D I'm a very happy person

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:14 pm
by Nachtwulf
The green/teal scorpid is now a common mob in 10kN.

Added in the last pass with the parrot and serpent mobs. Y'all can stop panicking now.

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:39 pm
by Rawr
^ :mrgreen:

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:28 pm
by Renle
The green/teal scorpid is now a common mob in 10kN.

Added in the last pass with the parrot and serpent mobs. Y'all can stop panicking now.
I think this thread is more about the silthid worker model then the teal scorpid.
So basically, currently in beta the Swarmer model of teal scorpid turns into a Silthid Worker model which is otherwise untameable?

How does this work with the resurfacing of the teal scorpid in beta? Do the new teal scorpids in 1k needles have a new Mob ID?

Re: Silithid Swarmer = Silithid Worker Model?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:20 pm
by Darknez
I've not seen them listed on WoWHead yet to say whether they replaced the Silithid Creeper or if they are new mobs with the same skin. I am assuming the latter - and even if the Silithid Creeper itself isn't in Cataclysm, anyone with a tamed one will still keep it as it was.