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Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:47 pm
by Kalliope
Delightful is indeed a word! :lol:

And you know what they say about assumptions! :D

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:31 pm
by Slickrock
Kalliope wrote:
The originally quoted post isn't based on facts, it's just more QQ.

Your nameplate doesn't show.

See, look here. AND flare doesn't work on camo.
Hi! I'm your resident QQer who should just shutup but I can't help myself.

Regarding the whole nameplate and targeting thing, I would like to see if the camo'd hunter shows up via tab-targeting.

Also, since you can target the hunter that's in camo by clicking on him, assuming you know where he is or just get lucky, we are still subject to the rogue/warrior melee attacks. So we did get nerfed here. People seem to be thinking this is rogue stealth. It isn't at least with the latest nerf.

Ok, I'll go back to QQ land now... :?

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:38 pm
by Shandorei
Haha :D

Well I just don't know, I have honestly never seen a hunter use it from another class' view, I want to see that before complaining anything about it :P

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:45 pm
by Dakonic
Haha wow, I know several palllys who are not going to leave me alone. lol

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:48 pm
by Slickrock
Quelthasa wrote:Haha :D

Well I just don't know, I have honestly never seen a hunter use it from another class' view, I want to see that before complaining anything about it :P

Yeah, I would like to see a demo of it in an arena environment.

If MM glass-cannon builds still worked, it would be really useful for that.

I would also like to see what happens when your pet is attacking but you are not. Is your camo broken? or do you stay camoed? I can see BG usefulness if it stays.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:49 pm
by Slickrock
celestial88 wrote:Haha wow, I know several palllys who are not going to leave me alone. lol
Yeah, I'm already hearing "We got you nerfed" comments in the pally forums I frequent. Hence some of my frustration.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:44 pm
by Kalliope
Slickrock wrote:Regarding the whole nameplate and targeting thing, I would like to see if the camo'd hunter shows up via tab-targeting.
Now THIS is a good question. I'd also like to know if we're somewhat hidden on tracking.
Slickrock wrote:Also, since you can target the hunter that's in camo by clicking on him, assuming you know where he is or just get lucky, we are still subject to the rogue/warrior melee attacks. So we did get nerfed here. People seem to be thinking this is rogue stealth. It isn't at least with the latest nerf.
It. Is. Not. A. Nerf.

This was what Blizzard has INTENDED for camo for a long time, if not from the beginning. This is not new. If the skill was not working like this before, then it was a BUG. It's not just melee classes; anyone can do it. But we are IMMUNE to everything else. That's a lot.

You can see a camo'd hunter moving around, but it's MUCH harder to get a bead on them, to target them directly and melee them out. Running around in camo is not meant to be stealth. It just gives us more opportunity to set things up on our terms (like traps) and can give us a chance to jump players who aren't paying attention. It's easier to miss a camo'd hunter out of the corner of your eye than it is a non-camo'd hunter.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:19 pm
by Slickrock
Kalliope wrote:You can see a camo'd hunter moving around, but it's MUCH harder to get a bead on them, to target them directly and melee them out. Running around in camo is not meant to be stealth. It just gives us more opportunity to set things up on our terms (like traps) and can give us a chance to jump players who aren't paying attention. It's easier to miss a camo'd hunter out of the corner of your eye than it is a non-camo'd hunter.
Then it sounds much more BG than arena viable.. which is fine for me. :-)

The tab-targeting thing would kill it for most arenas if it can be detected that way.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:26 pm
by Wassa
Slickrock wrote:Ok, I'll go back to QQ land now... :?
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Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:00 pm
by Kalliope
Slickrock wrote:
Kalliope wrote:You can see a camo'd hunter moving around, but it's MUCH harder to get a bead on them, to target them directly and melee them out. Running around in camo is not meant to be stealth. It just gives us more opportunity to set things up on our terms (like traps) and can give us a chance to jump players who aren't paying attention. It's easier to miss a camo'd hunter out of the corner of your eye than it is a non-camo'd hunter.
Then it sounds much more BG than arena viable.. which is fine for me. :-)

The tab-targeting thing would kill it for most arenas if it can be detected that way.
From what I could see in the video I linked, the other hunter had to be clicked on in order to be targeted, but I'd like a proper confirmation on that from someone in beta. :)

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:12 pm
by Slickrock
Wassa wrote:
Slickrock wrote:Ok, I'll go back to QQ land now... :?
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