Your choice to update a model.

[Samarachan]

Well, not update, but change the OH GOD MONKEY FACE OF DOOM. Seriously, seeing the monkey for the first time made me squee, but then the face...oh god the face.

[Dvalin]

To be honest The monkeys are ok, I see what you mean about the face but I have more of an issue with their size when tamed, to me a monkey should not be as big as a gorilla.

[Kalliope]

To be honest The monkeys are ok, I see what you mean about the face but I have more of an issue with their size when tamed, to me a monkey should not be as big as a gorilla.

I think it's because you play a dwarf. Monkeys are definitely smaller than gorillas. That does not, however, mean that monkeys don't look massive next to smaller races, which isn't really right either...

[Gimlion]

I'd like to step in and say that I prefer almost all of the old-world models compared to their later expansion counter parts... Cases in point?

I like OW (old world) Scorpids far more than Madexx
I like OW lions far more than Sambas
I like OW raptors more than OL raptors, not by much, but it's enough.
I like 'coyote' models a ton more than Saber Worgs, and like reg. worgs, except how they run.
The only exception to this is Wind Serpents, Chimaera, and if you count bone spiders/reg spiders, then them too.

Now, this being said, I think the models could use improvements as far as polygon count, texture, and some of the visual bugs/errors, but I do not think they require an overhaul, just touch up.

[Shade]

To be honest The monkeys are ok, I see what you mean about the face but I have more of an issue with their size when tamed, to me a monkey should not be as big as a gorilla.

I like the grey monkey with the darker eyes, the others though meh.

And I have to say, I despise the monkey's run animation. The front part of it's body moves in another direction then the back end, or so it looks to me. Might have really liked them otherwise, but as is I ended up ditching mine about ten mins after I tamed it.

[Dvalin]

I'd like to step in and say that I prefer almost all of the old-world models compared to their later expansion counter parts... Cases in point?

I like OW (old world) Scorpids far more than Madexx
I like OW lions far more than Sambas
I like OW raptors more than OL raptors, not by much, but it's enough.
I like 'coyote' models a ton more than Saber Worgs, and like reg. worgs, except how they run.
The only exception to this is Wind Serpents, Chimaera, and if you count bone spiders/reg spiders, then them too.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying they should change the old world models completely and replace them with Sambas/ Madexx/ whatever and like you I greatly prefer the old raptors, I honestly hate the OL raptors as they don't look raptor enough for me although I would like to see a raptor that uses the unarmoured raptor mount model.

Now, this being said, I think the models could use improvements as far as polygon count, texture, and some of the visual bugs/errors, but I do not think they require an overhaul, just touch up.

This is the point, which of the many pet models would you choose to clean up and update first, what changes would you make?

Personally I prefer Sambas' model to the current OW lions and I prefer Madexx's model to current OW scorpids however thats not to say that a revamped OW scorpid that had better poly counts and texturing so the claws and face textures didn't squash and stretch then who knows I might change my mind.

[Gimlion]

This is the point, which of the many pet models would you choose to clean up and update first, what changes would you make?

Well in that case, I'd like to see all of them cleaned up to the Cata standard, including non-pet models. I think that it would be much more appealing if they were to the same degree in cleanliness and smoothness in texture as Madexx or Sambas.

However, I don't think OW scorpids are really that bad, in fact I think their model is much neater and smoother, and more in line with real scorpions than Madexx is, but that's just my opinion, so to each their own.

[Dvalin]

No I agree the OW scorpids aren't THAT bad but they could do with a nice texture upgrade and some better polys.

[Shade]

I'd say updates some of the birds. The Condor has gorgeous wings, but the other birds look a bit bleh.

[Lupis]

Update... I gotta say Hyenas. They look so low res.

[SpiritBinder]

Personally, I don't think they should update any models. Updating to me implies the replacement of one for a newer/more current model. I agree, that some models would be fantastic if they where to be redone anew, but why not have both? Sambas/OW Lions are a perfect example of this atm. There is an old and new "lion" model, both avalible, and one can choose in which they prefer to tame. Win win!

If they where to go to the effort, and I mean it would be an amazing amount of effort of editing current models, I would like to see, instead of replacing, for eg. Hummar with a shiny new black sambas model. Lets just have him stay as he is, and place the new black model some where else? Best of both worlds : ) I would <3 to see new models of quite a few pets, but sadly these take a lot of time, so I am not expecting to many, to fast.

But if you look at it, this exp we have had brand new, cata built, Lion, Turtle, Scorpid and Crocolisk models added to the game, all tamable! Also countless other skins and models added that where previously unavalible. And who's not to say that other new models will be added to preexisting families further down the track? In fact, I'm sure we will.

[Rhyela]

I like the OW lions much better than Sambas. Their faces are nicer, the eyes are much more striking, and they don't have that annoying glitchy chest. I'm probably being excessively picky but between the horrible clipping with the mane and foreleg, and then this...I couldn't stand it!!! x_x









Edit: I would say the hyenas, standard cats, and wolves (both the "coyote" model and the "worg" model) need the most attention. But then at the same time, there are folks who enjoy them the way they are now. Like even though my white lion looks outdated, that's the way I've known him all these years, so it doesn't bother me.

[Acherontia]

Indeed, changing the STYLE shouldn't happen--just smoothing out the kinks/errors in the framework.

For example, I LOVE my hyena, I love his personality, but I do wish the pose/squareface would get some work.

And regarding Sambas and his weird mane--I shamefully admit I've already tamed & abandoned him. This is partially due to lack of stable space--and I already have a kitty I love, Ochre (i.e. Shango). But the mane/weird face just got to me, as did the misshapen legs--whoever in the art team okayed the leg shapes & angles of the night elf kitties/Sambas needs to look at some real big cat photos

[Dvalin]

I'd never noticed that chest glitch o.O, mind you I run with my tiger when I need a cat more often than my Sambas. I suspect thats a missing texture from the mount that someone forgot to patch.

I agree Acherontia, someone should perhaps point out to the dev team that cats aren't constantly walking in a semi crouch, as an animator I find it a little galling that considering how big a company blizzard is they didn't research that properly.

[malikith]

OK read all of these and I have to say...

ALL old world models need some work...

some just need to be smoothed out or their textures realigned or their polygon count multiplied.

The ones that bother me most are

Cats...Blocky..badly blocky..BADLY blocky.
Bats...everything mentioned already except one thing..Are ALL bats vampire bats? Bats are one of my favorite animals in RL ...Foxbats in particular.

[pengupuff]

I'm going to echo everyone else and say that bats need an update pretty badly. I'd also love to see spore bats altered so that their... "appendages" didn't look so phallic. >.<
I love spore bats, but can't have one as they are now because that's all I can picture dragging along behind them...

There really isn't any other pet model that bothers me. I would like to step in and say that it's a little silly to chastise most of the models for being a tad unrealistic ("well, these animals in nature look nothing like this!"). WoW is stylized after all, and I actually prefer that the critters look unique to their real life cousins. Besides, WoW isn't the National Geographic MMO, it's a fantasy RPG that features dinosaurs, elves, giant robots, werewolves, vampires, and zombies, among other ridiculous things. Because of this I can hardly get offended because the idle position of certain cats is physically incorrect. xD

[Nubhorns]

Bats definitely need a bit of a tweak. The Wyvern's wings bother me a little bit as well, since I'm not sure they can realistically sustain flight with wings like that - but I love them all the same. I'd run the Oculus for years to get tameable wyverns. :( I think hippogryph wings need to be larger as well, and I'd like to see some 'thickness' added to wings of birds/etc in general. When they fold up you can clearly see that they're very, very thin.

I'd love to see more work done with the chimeras in the realm of sizing/clipping through their masters and getting in the way constantly. My wish for new skins has been answered already. :P I'd change the way wind serpents move along the ground as well - they clip their bellies through the dirt 95% of the time, and it's one of the reasons I can't keep one.

And Proto-drake wings! Oh man, I'm sure this is a tiny issue compared to the other things, but the wings of the proto-drakes bother me so much. Regular drakes have the normal 'fingered' wings, and while netherdrakes don't, their webbing is shaped in such a way that it's a lot nicer on the eyes. With proto-drakes, while they have sorta-'fingered' wings if you watch them glide the webbing is stretched right across really tight, and it just looks awkward to me. This makes me sad, as I love everything else about the proto-drakes...just not their wings when they glide. That's less of a graphics gripe so much as it is a taste gripe, though.

[Tulune]

As much as I love the coyote model, I wish they would touch up the face a little so it does not look so boxy.