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Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:47 pm
by Wain
Oddly, the various claims by the Infinites about trying to prevent death and disaster are contradicted by one boss (can't check the reference right now) that he will destroy this "clock work" universe by his changing of history.

I have a suspicion that the Infinite Flight were created by the Titans or by Nozdormu as a necessary part of the universe. They never seem to succeed at destroying history (then, I suppose, how would we know if they did?). I suspect they're a chaotic foil to the Bronze's precise preservation of time and thereby we get free will or choice or some other hokey fantasy concept ;). I wonder if their leader is a kind of shadow- or time backwards- aspect of Nozdormu himself and his demise will be when the two finally meet.

EDIT: Ah, it's Aeonus: "The time has come to shatter this clockwork universe forever! Let us no longer be slaves of the hourglass! I warn you: those who do not embrace the greater path shall become victims of its passing!". Though I guess that could reflect a desire to destroy the controls over time rather than all of current existence.

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:15 am
by Nick
I have a itching suspicion that when Nozzy finally does reach his demise, it'll be black holes.
Black holes everywhere.

Even if he doesn't control time in an overall sense, a lot of time line that he does have sway over is probably going to get effed in the process whether it be by his own talons or us naive adventures.

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:04 am
by Chimera
Serendipity82 wrote:But in The Shattering by Christie Goldman, Ysera and Alexstraza blessed Teldrassil. Don't think it gave the nightelves their immortality back, but it is blessed now.

THATS THE BOOK IVE BEEN MISSING

I keep looking over my shelf of WoW novels and thats the last one i need!!!! Its been KIIIILLLLING me lol!

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:20 am
by Royi
Wain wrote:EDIT: Ah, it's Aeonus: "The time has come to shatter this clockwork universe forever! Let us no longer be slaves of the hourglass! I warn you: those who do not embrace the greater path shall become victims of its passing!". Though I guess that could reflect a desire to destroy the controls over time rather than all of current existence.
I keep thinking of the similarities between this and the Matrix even.

(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redpill)

The terms redpill and its opposite, bluepill, are pop culture terms that have become a common symbol for the choice between the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue) and embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red).

In this case the Bronze Dragonflight are living in the Blue version of the hourglass, and the Twilight are living in the Red version of the hourglass.

Plus look at them! They look like dragons Neo and Morpheus would turn into!

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Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:27 am
by Ikutai
Royi wrote:
Wain wrote:EDIT: Ah, it's Aeonus: "The time has come to shatter this clockwork universe forever! Let us no longer be slaves of the hourglass! I warn you: those who do not embrace the greater path shall become victims of its passing!". Though I guess that could reflect a desire to destroy the controls over time rather than all of current existence.
I keep thinking of the similarities between this and the Matrix even.

(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redpill)

The terms redpill and its opposite, bluepill, are pop culture terms that have become a common symbol for the choice between the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue) and embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red).

In this case the Bronze Dragonflight are living in the Blue version of the hourglass, and the Twilight are living in the Red version of the hourglass.

Plus look at them! They look like dragons Neo and Morpheus would turn into!

Image
Y'know, pop culture references aside, that was probably the best way I've ever seen that explained. :)

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:37 am
by Royi
Ikutai wrote: Y'know, pop culture references aside, that was probably the best way I've ever seen that explained. :)
About 1 out of 50 of my posts on here are actually imformative or relavent to the conversation. That must have been one of those posts perhaps

Thanks for the morale boost :)

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:57 pm
by Chimera
That was an awesome explanation and ive never seen the Matrix LOL

I like Wains idea too of there being '2' Nozdormu's, one Infinite and one Bronze and they end up fighting till the death. Assuming the bronze Nozdormu is the original, if infinite Nozdormu killed bronze Nozdormu, infinite Nozdormu would die too right? His counterpart is dead so he should kinda fade away or blow up or something.. But then that makes me question why Infinite are battling Bronze in the first place if the only outcome is that both either cant do the killing blow or one does and the other dies xD

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:59 pm
by cowmuflage
Maybe thats what they where made to do? Maybe they where made with the sole purpose of wipeing out the bronze.

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:07 pm
by Chimera
Yea, it would tie in with the possibility that they are the 'future' bronze dragons or 'corrupted' or even maybe, 'ascended?' or 'converted?'. Even though in CoT Strat the infinite wyrmkin with the bronze wyrmkin is called an Infinite Corrupter, it may not be corruption but conversion :3 I love this thread SOOOO much!! xD

Re: Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:12 pm
by Royi
Xakaal wrote:That was an awesome explanation and ive never seen the Matrix LOL

I like Wains idea too of there being '2' Nozdormu's, one Infinite and one Bronze and they end up fighting till the death. Assuming the bronze Nozdormu is the original, if infinite Nozdormu killed bronze Nozdormu, infinite Nozdormu would die too right? His counterpart is dead so he should kinda fade away or blow up or something.. But then that makes me question why Infinite are battling Bronze in the first place if the only outcome is that both either cant do the killing blow or one does and the other dies xD
Whats to say the actual Nozdormu may be the Infinite version?

Red pill... blue pill... red pill... blue pill...

Seriously you need to watch the Matrix. Not the 2nd and 3rd ones as much (I liked #2 quite a bit), but definately the original

Heres an AMAZING clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VJTJ5WH-2M


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