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Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:21 pm
by Senna-Umbreon
Mania wrote:I am logged into the PTR now. My ghost hydra is family Hydra, non-exotic. No skills, no talent tree (yet), but a troll hunter named Sandfur that I ran into in Orgrimmar told me that her ghost hydra still has its old tenacity talents (from when it was a crocolisk) in its spellbook at the moment. Mine eats meat and fish (and raw meat and raw fish) but that might be a leftover from the crocolisk as well.
... Well wow. That Troll Hunter was me! I actually had a feeling that it was you, Mania! Hah! XD

Anywho, I posted a thread on all the Hydra findings. Bit redundant now, considering, but oh well! :lol:

*Fweeee edit* Aaaand it seems that my post that had my findings was moved to this thread. It's on the page right before this XD

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:26 pm
by cowmuflage
I'm very glad they are Non-Exotic! Whoot!

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:28 pm
by Mania
I knew I knew you! :D And you posted more info than I did - thanks!

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:29 pm
by TygerDarkstorm
To be quite honest, I'm thoroughly glad they won't be exotic. BM does have plenty of love, in fact, when those changes to AotH go through, it's being predicted to be one of the top DPS specs--how is that not love? (By the way, BM is also simming above SV in DPS right now as well. ;) )

The thing I'm most disappointed about with Hydras is that they're recycling an already existing buff. We already have 2 pets that give the 5% crit buff...surely there was something else they could have been given. :(

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:47 pm
by Valashe
TygerDarkstorm wrote:To be quite honest, I'm thoroughly glad they won't be exotic. BM does have plenty of love, in fact, when those changes to AotH go through, it's being predicted to be one of the top DPS specs--how is that not love? (By the way, BM is also simming above SV in DPS right now as well. ;) )

The thing I'm most disappointed about with Hydras is that they're recycling an already existing buff. We already have 2 pets that give the 5% crit buff...surely there was something else they could have been given. :(
The buff to AotH already went through. If you're spec'd 3/3 in One with Nature you're AoTH tooltip should read 2600 ap. That doesn't include the 25% buff you get from Animal Handler. :headbang:

As for the buff, the recycling of buffs was to be expected. When Blizz condenced the buffs down from what they were at the hight of BC and most of LK, there was bound to be a point where redundancy was going to take place.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:59 pm
by Kalliope
*faints and runs off to the PTR*

Mildly surprised the hydras are non-exotic, but not completely, since I'd had a feeling for some reason...

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:07 pm
by Jolyroger
I was in PTR and saw Sandfur in Sholazar Basin, I was JRogerr.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:09 pm
by Kalliope
I've moved my last PTR char hordeside, so now I have one of each faction. :D Am in the Petopians channel on both!

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:10 pm
by Lisaara
Valashe wrote:
TygerDarkstorm wrote:To be quite honest, I'm thoroughly glad they won't be exotic. BM does have plenty of love, in fact, when those changes to AotH go through, it's being predicted to be one of the top DPS specs--how is that not love? (By the way, BM is also simming above SV in DPS right now as well. ;) )

The thing I'm most disappointed about with Hydras is that they're recycling an already existing buff. We already have 2 pets that give the 5% crit buff...surely there was something else they could have been given. :(
The buff to AotH already went through. If you're spec'd 3/3 in One with Nature you're AoTH tooltip should read 2600 ap. That doesn't include the 25% buff you get from Animal Handler. :headbang:

As for the buff, the recycling of buffs was to be expected. When Blizz condenced the buffs down from what they were at the hight of BC and most of LK, there was bound to be a point where redundancy was going to take place.
It didnt go through on Live yet. o.o; Mine still says only 829 or somethin and I am full out on One With Nature.
TygerDarkstorm wrote:To be quite honest, I'm thoroughly glad they won't be exotic. BM does have plenty of love, in fact, when those changes to AotH go through, it's being predicted to be one of the top DPS specs--how is that not love? (By the way, BM is also simming above SV in DPS right now as well. ;) )

The thing I'm most disappointed about with Hydras is that they're recycling an already existing buff. We already have 2 pets that give the 5% crit buff...surely there was something else they could have been given. :(
Gonna have to disagree on top DPS. BM is still below SV and MM. I tested the SV on a dummy and BM was like 1k or so lower than SV. Thats not love at all. But we'll see when the buff comes.....though I'd much prefer Hydras going exotic than the buff, since BMs are about our rare beasties. We share a lot with the others as is.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:13 pm
by zedxrgal
In a way I'm a little bit sad that they wont be exotics but at the same time I don't care. *madly laughs* :shock: HYDRAS!

I just really really really hope this is real.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 pm
by Sochi
eeeeeeeee! Hydras! T'is true! And non-exotic! My wee gobbies can get one each!

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 pm
by Kalliope
It is live; I'm staring at my ap right now. 829 sounds terribly low; keep in mind that this buff only applies to AotH at level 85, so a hunter below 85 won't have it.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:19 pm
by Lisaara
Kalliope wrote:It is live; I'm staring at my ap right now. 829 sounds terribly low; keep in mind that this buff only applies to AotH at level 85, so a hunter below 85 won't have it.
Jessibelle is 85. o.o;

Here's a screencap as proof.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:25 pm
by Nightsights
it went live on US servers around 7pm CST during raids. you'll have to refresh your hawk buff for it to show the change.

edit: my spell book hawk still says 829ap, but the actual buff is 2600ap with 3/3 OwN.

i tested BM out on Omnitron 18K dps (pet did 44% dmg) and the Twilight Dragons 19K dps (pet did 42% dmg) on normal 25man, was about 1200-1400 dps behind the MM hunters.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:28 pm
by Lisaara
Nightsights wrote:it went live on US servers around 7pm CST during raids. you'll have to refresh your hawk buff for it to show the change.

edit: my spell book hawk still says 829ap, but the actual buff is 2600ap with 3/3 OwN.

i tested BM out on Omnitron 18K dps (pet did 44% dmg) and the Twilight Dragons 19K dps (pet did 42% dmg) on normal 25man, was about 1200-1400 dps behind the MM hunters.
Seems the tooltips are different...the BUFF itself is correct but the tooltip isnt. I refreshed the buff and the tooltip still didnt say 2600.

Hydra question??

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:37 pm
by Lotokoth
Mod note: Merged into hydra topic

I've heard a lot of different talk about taming hydras. Are there ANY hydras that are tameable at the moment?

Re: Hydra question??

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:39 pm
by Magnakilro
not on live...and from what I read they aren't tameable on PTR.....yet

Re: Hydra question??

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:39 pm
by Lupis
Not at the moment, no. HOWEVER, in Patch 4.1 they will be, or so people are saying.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS! (patch 4.1 on PTR) [MMO note removed]

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:41 pm
by Kalliope
My tooltip on live currently makes no mention of a specific number:
A powerful stance which increases your ranged attack power, increasing the damage you do. Use it at all times.
The buff itself reads:
Increases ranged attack power by 2000.
On my character sheet (in PvP gear), my ranged ap drops 2k without it.

Getting back to the topic at hand, I'm going to update the title of this thread to reflect that hydras are not currently tamable on the PTR in this particular build....yet.

Re: TAMABLE HYDRAS? (patch 4.1 on PTR, no tamables found yet

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:36 am
by zedxrgal
Ok now the suspsense of whether or not this was true is killing me since now they're not being able to be tamed. Ugh.