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Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:43 pm
by Wassa
Royi wrote:WOWTCG MOUNTS!!!! Perhaps that one Hahadori mount you've been eyeing will be worth it if its for all your toons...
Oh please. The money I spent on that mount was worth it the moment I learned the mount on Wassa.

=)

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:47 pm
by Lupis
Sesamee wrote:I did read your post. I know some mounts would still be able to be shared. But excluding rep mounts sucks out a lot of the fun...and leaves a lot of the grind...not to mention a ton of mounts that won't be shared. Of course, this is all IF it goes live this way. Which I hope it won't. JMO.
My opinion as well. I've done the Kurenai rep grind four or five times. Can I just get the dang mounts on my priest?

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:41 pm
by Ziarre
The reason they're doing that with the reputation mounts is because otherwise, to get city-faction mounts people would just roll alts of the appropriate race and avoid having to grind rep with those cities at all.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:57 pm
by Lupis
Oh, that's a very good point, Ziarre.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:24 pm
by GormanGhaste
Ziarre wrote:The reason they're doing that with the reputation mounts is because otherwise, to get city-faction mounts people would just roll alts of the appropriate race and avoid having to grind rep with those cities at all.
Would it really be easier to get alts of every race up to level 40 rather than use city tabards in dungeons?

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:14 pm
by Ziarre
Some people might already have alts like that. Not to mention, people will go to great effort to be lazy.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:23 am
by Rower
The city mount restriction must be meant to avoid that at level 20 a tauren runs around with a raptor. And it doesn't make much sense since with the tabard and dungeons you could ride a raptor by level 30.
Of course this is my opinion, but I don't really care about those. All my favourite mounts come from drops / achivements, so I'm totally satisfied with it.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:36 am
by Ziarre
But in that scenario, you would only have one city's faction that high by 30. An altoholic like me would get a toon to 20 and suddenly find all city-faction mounts open to me (theoretically...I don't have any gnomes!).

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:11 am
by Royi
Wassa wrote:
Royi wrote:WOWTCG MOUNTS!!!! Perhaps that one Hahadori mount you've been eyeing will be worth it if its for all your toons...
Oh please. The money I spent on that mount was worth it the moment I learned the mount on Wassa.

=)

Just think about Wassa Jr. Wassa III and Wassa the Esteemed Local Dye Trader! (yeah i dont get it either)



Side question, has anyone tried the Account wide mount of the X-53 Touring rocket or the Swift Zherva?

I'm pondering buying a 30 day card to get it on one toon (for all to share). My cousin did RAF with me but quit after the first month (after purchasing the game). Therefore 30 bucks for a card would net me a month of playtime and a Rocket Mount (before it gets retired)

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:43 am
by GormanGhaste
Royi wrote:Has anyone tried the Account wide mount of the X-53 Touring rocket or the Swift Zherva?
Currently in Beta, my opposite faction alt has both the rocket and the zhevra mount!

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 am
by Royi
GormanGhaste wrote:
Royi wrote:Has anyone tried the Account wide mount of the X-53 Touring rocket or the Swift Zherva?
Currently in Beta, my opposite faction alt has both the rocket and the zhevra mount!
ooo thanks for checking :)

Now to complete it now and get the rocket.... or wait till next mount which might be http://mop.wowhead.com/item=83086

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 pm
by Bodhran
Sasrei wrote:
Kraai wrote:

I'm a special snowflake because I don't like this at all?

One thing I don't people are seeing is that this ruins character progression and makes it feel like the more 85's a person has; The bigger advantage towards RNG they have.

With BoA everything it feels I have absolutely nothing to strive for on my priest. At all.

I dont get how it would ruin character progression.. I mean rep if you like that sort of thing, all it means is that if your say on your alt gearing up doing dungeons and some mount drops your not going to be ticked off your not on your main. Or if your farming/questing on an alt and you come across a rare you wont be fuming that your not on your main. I know when I came across tlpd on Saon on my 6 month of camping for him on Sas was not at all happy :lol:

All it is, is basically you dont have to farm/camp on your alts or hope your on your mount collector when the mount drops. If anything it gives you more freedom to go back to alts or not feel the need to always have to be on the character that you have the most achievements on. RNG is RNG no matter what, you can do one dungeon on 5 chars every single day doesnt mean youll get the mount. I mean it helps but still rng is a cruel thing.. Play the game how you want to play it :)
^^^This.


QUESTION: when all your pets/mounts go account bound does it count towards finishing a mount/pet chevo? For example my oldest main (Tuaren warrior) is 13 pets away from 150 pets and is only 4 mounts away from 100 mounts... so when all my toons mounts and pet get granted to all my other toons would it fulfill the chevo to cap out the last 13 pets and 4 mounts. (granted the last 13 and 4 are different pets and mounts that my warrior does not have already)

Does that even make sense?

I'd check myself but my beta is messed up right now... >.> beta is beta

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:14 pm
by Bodhran
Sasrei wrote:So far its your chars across all realms have the exact same mounts wit the exception of:
travelers tundra (stupid.. you spend all that gold for it to..)<---dumb >.>
factions mount (uh... ok there..)<---really REALLY DUMB -_-
profession mounts (this I get though)<---I get this but ehh I could go either way
(not pointed at Sas I mean blizz)
cowmuflage wrote:I get faction mounts. I mean unless they'd change the Wintersaber to a Venomhide. :/
I'm sorry but I think that is vapid on Blizz's part (Not you Cow you have a right to your POV)

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:22 pm
by Andine
Woah, hold your hippogriphs. Restricting class mounts I can, reluctantly, understand. Profession mounts, I'd be bitter about (what's so engineery about the flying machine that someone who uses the motorcycle can't use it?). But restricting them by reputation as well? That would defeat the whole point of the BoA mounts, meaning the only mounts you can ride are those you would be able to purchase on that char anyway.

Don't forget - this system is still supposed to make mounts Bind on Account. If all chars are still restricted to mounts they had before the BoA upgrade, it wasn't a BoA upgrade at all.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:47 am
by Royi
Andine wrote:Woah, hold your hippogriphs. Restricting class mounts I can, reluctantly, understand. Profession mounts, I'd be bitter about (what's so engineery about the flying machine that someone who uses the motorcycle can't use it?). But restricting them by reputation as well? That would defeat the whole point of the BoA mounts, meaning the only mounts you can ride are those you would be able to purchase on that char anyway.

Don't forget - this system is still supposed to make mounts Bind on Account. If all chars are still restricted to mounts they had before the BoA upgrade, it wasn't a BoA upgrade at all.
The Turbo Charged Flying Machine should be avail for any toon of yours that has that 350 or 375 or whatever Engineering skill. Same with the Carpets at least. I'd hope they would have it still there on my non-engineering toons but just be greyed out or something. I don't understand about that Tundra Mammoth though, since you had to pay so much gold for it (maybe its a early oversight)

Anyone check on the Vial of the Sands to see if thats BOA too?

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:48 am
by Shinryu Masaki
There's two tundra mammoth because they're faction specific, they have faction NPCs on it, so basically it's not the same ID for horde and alliance. They don't even have the same armor color either.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 pm
by Andine
Royi wrote:The Turbo Charged Flying Machine should be avail for any toon of yours that has that 350 or 375 or whatever Engineering skill. Same with the Carpets at least.
Answer me one question: why? What does this restriction add to the game? Who benefits from it? What is the story reason for it?
For me, the answers are simple: it adds nothing, nobody benefits from it save from one char of one person, and the story reasons are lackluster - if I know enough to ride a motorcycle, I know enough to fly a gyrocopter.
The opposite? It adds another mount to your alts, making playing them more interesting. Everybody who has an engineer benefits from it, due to the previous sentence. The story reason? It doesn't need any, BoA mounts are not "really" happening to our toons.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:03 pm
by Sesamee
Andine wrote:Answer me one question: why? What does this restriction add to the game? Who benefits from it? What is the story reason for it?
For me, the answers are simple: it adds nothing, nobody benefits from it save from one char of one person, and the story reasons are lackluster - if I know enough to ride a motorcycle, I know enough to fly a gyrocopter.
The opposite? It adds another mount to your alts, making playing them more interesting. Everybody who has an engineer benefits from it, due to the previous sentence. The story reason? It doesn't need any, BoA mounts are not "really" happening to our toons.
I agree. If you've done the required rep grind or profession grind on one toon you should be able to access the mounts on all toons. The Mag'har rep grind was endless killng of ogres over and over. And then again on Tuesday! The mounts are ridiculously awesome but I will not be doing the grind on another toon. There's too much other newer stuff to do in game. Even if I wanted to I literally do not have the time to grind up every single rep on every single toon. I just don't.

I did it once, let me use them on all my toons. I'm about to start the grind for netherwing drakes and the rays. If they are not included in the "BoA mounts" I will be very disappointed. Grinding sucks and leaving the mounts from some of the most tedious grinds out of what could be one of the coolest new things to hit the game sucks.

If you say you are going to make mounts BOA then be a champ and actually make them all BoA! Make this thing something incredibly awesome instead of a shadow of what it could be.

Re: Mounts now BOA!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:44 pm
by Royi
Andine wrote:
Royi wrote:The Turbo Charged Flying Machine should be avail for any toon of yours that has that 350 or 375 or whatever Engineering skill. Same with the Carpets at least.
Answer me one question: why? What does this restriction add to the game? Who benefits from it? What is the story reason for it?
For me, the answers are simple: it adds nothing, nobody benefits from it save from one char of one person, and the story reasons are lackluster - if I know enough to ride a motorcycle, I know enough to fly a gyrocopter.
The opposite? It adds another mount to your alts, making playing them more interesting. Everybody who has an engineer benefits from it, due to the previous sentence. The story reason? It doesn't need any, BoA mounts are not "really" happening to our toons.

Because I'm selfish and I'm a engineer who needs more fancy things! :)

I guess if you level engineering and learn it on one toon, i don't see why you couldn't use it on other toons. Those flying machines have been around for 4 or 5 years anyways. I never did have a flying carpet....

Fine, you right, you win.