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Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:14 am
by Danielfboone
I think I like the old Gryphon model better. The new one's feathers are too ruffled looking. Birds have a sleeker appearance which makes them more aerodynamic. On another point, I have never understood why they call the Horde mounts Wyverns when in mythology a Wyvern was a type of Dragon. They should be called Chimera and the in game Chimeras should be called Wyverns. That would be more accurate.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:19 am
by Lupis
Danielfboone wrote:I think I like the old Gryphon model better. The new one's feathers are too ruffled looking. Birds have a sleeker appearance which makes them more aerodynamic. On another point, I have never understood why they call the Horde mounts Wyverns when in mythology a Wyvern was a type of Dragon. They should be called Chimera and the in game Chimeras should be called Wyverns. That would be more accurate.
Technically, I believe Wyverns are based off of manticores, the lion-bodied, scorpion-tailed, bat-winged and human-faced creatures of old lore. I dunno why they were called Wyverns. xD
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:41 am
by Myrrmi
I think it's just a Blizzard thing. Like quilen the shi-shis

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:09 pm
by Silivren
LupisDarkmoon wrote:Danielfboone wrote:I think I like the old Gryphon model better. The new one's feathers are too ruffled looking. Birds have a sleeker appearance which makes them more aerodynamic. On another point, I have never understood why they call the Horde mounts Wyverns when in mythology a Wyvern was a type of Dragon. They should be called Chimera and the in game Chimeras should be called Wyverns. That would be more accurate.
Technically, I believe Wyverns are based off of manticores, the lion-bodied, scorpion-tailed, bat-winged and human-faced creatures of old lore. I dunno why they were called Wyverns. xD
Yeah you're right. Its kind of dumb actually because like was said a Wyvern is a completely different type of mythological creature. Then when you get right down to it.. THIS is a chimera and now that goats have been added I see no reason not to make one. ^.^

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:11 pm
by Danielfboone
You're right the Horde mount should be called a Manticore to be accurate.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:53 pm
by cowmuflage
LupisDarkmoon wrote:Danielfboone wrote:I think I like the old Gryphon model better. The new one's feathers are too ruffled looking. Birds have a sleeker appearance which makes them more aerodynamic. On another point, I have never understood why they call the Horde mounts Wyverns when in mythology a Wyvern was a type of Dragon. They should be called Chimera and the in game Chimeras should be called Wyverns. That would be more accurate.
Technically, I believe Wyverns are based off of manticores, the lion-bodied, scorpion-tailed, bat-winged and human-faced creatures of old lore. I dunno why they were called Wyverns. xD
Well they can call them what ever they want it's their fantasy themed game in their fantasy themed world. It would be wrong if they based it on earth where the name would be wrong but it's not so they are not wrong.
I mean they technicly are wrong in calling their crabs crabs seeing as they only have 6 legs in all
EDIT: least that's what I think. I mean other games and stuff do this too but WoW seems to be the only game I ever see gte shit for it

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:35 am
by Snowy
cowmuflage wrote:EDIT: least that's what I think. I mean other games and stuff do this too but WoW seems to be the only game I ever see gte shit for it

We're not giving them shit for it, we're just confused. If they wanted to take a mythological creature, why confuse everyone and name it after a totally different creature? It's like adding, as a quick example, wolves and lions into the game but calling the wolves lions and the lions wolves. It's just confusing. I believe quilen are based on a mythological creature but the word 'quilen' is completely made up. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm only going by what I know!)
I as well believe they should've called wyverns (though they're often also called wind riders) manticores and the chimaera should've been wyvern.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:52 am
by Danielfboone
And, they call the Quilen dogs when they are obviously lions and therefore cats. They are based on the Chinese Guardian Lion called the Shishi. They even fight like cats, using their claws as well as biting.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:12 pm
by Lisaara
Nothing to be confused about when the creature is their creation, not the actual creature.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:46 pm
by Kalliope
cowmuflage wrote:EDIT: least that's what I think. I mean other games and stuff do this too but WoW seems to be the only game I ever see gte shit for it

It mostly comes down to "more people play it, so more people are picky about it."
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:19 pm
by Boven
Danielfboone wrote:And, they call the Quilen dogs when they are obviously lions and therefore cats. They are based on the Chinese Guardian Lion called the Shishi. They even fight like cats, using their claws as well as biting.
Actually, I think quilen are based upon fu dogs which are essentially lions, but for some reason considered dogs in the western world.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:31 pm
by Myrrmi
Because they are kind-of dogs that just look like lions
RL quilen:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9552/chowti1.jpg

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:32 pm
by Lisaara
This is true. the Quilen are based from Fu-Dogs(aka Lion Dogs).

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:52 pm
by Chimera
/continues to derail
Wikipedia wrote:The term chimera has also come to describe any mythical or fictional animal with parts taken from various animals.
Thats how i view Chimera's so i have no quarrel with how they made the chimera beast in WoW :3 My OC is named Chimera and he's only slightly similar to the greek mythological representation of Chimera
/rerails
So, the ally/horde factions are gonna be in Krarasang Wilds? I wonder if they'll make use of the many abandoned beaches (tho im sure that would mean the vegetation would get replaced with bases of operation which makes me sad

Ally n horde have already ruined parts of Jade Forest which makes me sad /stil mourns the destruction of the serpent statue). And as always im sure the rep grind is going to be long and time consuming ._.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:09 pm
by Kalliope
Xakaal wrote:So, the ally/horde factions are gonna be in Krarasang Wilds? I wonder if they'll make use of the many abandoned beaches (tho im sure that would mean the vegetation would get replaced with bases of operation which makes me sad

That's exactly what's going to happen, actually.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:23 pm
by Lisaara
Seems so.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:42 pm
by Chimera
Kalliope wrote:Xakaal wrote:So, the ally/horde factions are gonna be in Krarasang Wilds? I wonder if they'll make use of the many abandoned beaches (tho im sure that would mean the vegetation would get replaced with bases of operation which makes me sad

That's exactly what's going to happen, actually.
D: nooo... ._. /sad
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:38 am
by Myrrmi
Allies settle down on the far-eastern empty peninsula of the wilds, just next to Jade Forest, and Hordies take a likewise empty isle to the west of the zone.
I'm kind of worried about the no-flying restrictions on those areas (hopefully not the whole Karasang...?). I really hope they won't turn into a dismounting splatty-death traps, like Wintergrasp and the spider cave for Serpent Riders dailies - although I'm pretty sure that for the last one it's just a bug

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:44 am
by Kalliope
Myrrmi wrote:I really hope they won't turn into a dismounting splatty-death traps, like Wintergrasp and the spider cave for Serpent Riders dailies - although I'm pretty sure that for the last one it's just a bug

*groans quietly* This too was also happening when I was last there. It's just those parts of the zones.
Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:17 am
by Danielfboone
Junrei wrote:This is true. the Quilen are based from Fu-Dogs(aka Lion Dogs).

Fu, or Foo Dogs and the Shishi are the same thing. They are the Chinese guardian lions seen as statues around ancient temples and other structures.