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Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:10 am
by 12gunner
Ok so as i said in the subject im conuised are hydras possibly going to be tameable or its been proven that they will not be tameable?

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:13 am
by Loki
They are possibly going to be tameable. The ghost hydra now has it's own family on the PTR but as of now it's still pretty buggy and you can't tame any new hydra NPCs. We will have to wait to later PTR builds to know for sure.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:17 am
by 12gunner
ah thank you very much i saw the hydra icon on petopia vanished and was wondering if they were deemed not tameable

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:17 am
by Wain
There is evidence in the 4.1 PTR that they may become tameable:
- hydras now show diets when you beast lore them, though they remain untameable
- people with the "ghost" hydra they got through the bug now see it as family "Hydra" and it has a family ability

Now these do strongly suggest taming soon, though they could be the remains of a test that they did in the alpha 4.1 in which they rejected hydras and they haven't removed all the details yet. The former does seem the simpler and more likely explanation, i.e. that they'll be tameable soon. Unfortunately I haven't received any up to date info on them.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:18 am
by Chimera
I honestly cant believe hydras are starting to work their way into the game as a tameable mob... The ghost hydra was an accident. They are aquatic creatures. They waddle on two stubby legs and one hell of a large tail. I dont even think ive even seen one run before. Id rather see basilisks tameable, they at least can be found on both land and near water :/

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:22 am
by 12gunner
Xakaal wrote:I honestly cant believe hydras are starting to work their way into the game as a tameable mob... The ghost hydra was an accident. They are aquatic creatures. They waddle on two stubby legs and one hell of a large tail. I dont even think ive even seen one run before. Id rather see basilisks tameable, they at least can be found on both land and near water :/
I think its because of all the hunters who didnt get the "ghost hydra" and complained about it 24/7

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:25 am
by Chimera
Guh... its like all the greifers asking for druid skins and worgen skins (damn Garwal..) to be tameable. It just really shouldnt happen >.<

And trust me, i would be on a tameable druid skin

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:32 am
by Loki
Well Hydras do make sense to me, they are beasts, look cool, can go on land, and are pretty much one of if not the most requested pet (with stags and basilisks). Basilisks are much less exciting I think, but yeah they should be added at some point.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:35 am
by Wain
12gunner wrote:I think its because of all the hunters who didnt get the "ghost hydra" and complained about it 24/7
No, it's because when they asked hunters what beasts they'd like to see made tameable, hydras in general were VERY high on the list. It doesn't have anything to do with whether other families make more sense or not.

Hydras are amphibious not aquatic, but most of the important ones you face in the game, you do so on land. And they're quite effective on land. It doesn't mean they're the most obvious untameable family to be made tameable, but I believe they shouldn't be ruled out as aquatic beasts.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:38 am
by Loki
Out of interest, was it basilisks and stags that came near the top too ?

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:39 am
by Chimera
Eh, the fact their entire body is designed to look like a water dwelling animal and at least, my past lore with them in other refrences has me calling them aquatic. I know they are amphibious but i just really find it akward to have hydras running around trying to keep up with their hunter buddy (btw are they going to get a better walk animation? i cannot stress enough how under developed they seem to me.. and im worried their run is going to be extremely choppy)

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:32 am
by Carnifex
Xakaal wrote:Eh, the fact their entire body is designed to look like a water dwelling animal and at least, my past lore with them in other refrences has me calling them aquatic. I know they are amphibious but i just really find it akward to have hydras running around trying to keep up with their hunter buddy (btw are they going to get a better walk animation? i cannot stress enough how under developed they seem to me.. and im worried their run is going to be extremely choppy)
Those points also apply to crocolisks, though, and crocolisks are tameable.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:08 am
by Vephriel
I love the Hydra animations. They have a great walk and run, the way their body weight shifts from side to side due to the three heads and wide posture. I've always been fond of the unique and fitting movements.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 am
by Ariamodasu
Seriously stop trying to tame me. You have Arc, thats as close as you're gonna get to a druid :< I'm my own cow!

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:17 am
by Azunara
Ariamodasu wrote:Seriously stop trying to tame me. You have Arc, thats as close as you're gonna get to a druid :< I'm my own cow!
This! How can I be taken seriously if there's tons of hunters running around with druid kitties? You have lynx model! D:

(Really though, I just don't think it'll happen. I mean, it's hinting you're taming a druid, and while they're bestial, they're not stupid and have strong willpowers. They have to in order to be a druid, otherwise they'll become savagekin. I think.)

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:05 pm
by Sasrei
Yah right cause Wow is just based on such realistic things it makes no sense whatsoever for a three headed water/land mammal to be tamed by hunters. In reality nether rays and spore bats should actually be aquatic creatures but they arent, they are flyers.. but taming stone spiders are also odd but .. I wanna tame a druid ^.^ *beast lore on Ryno.. some day.. some day*

actually.. I wanna tame a palliden.. and just have him on agrressive in pvp ^.^

Arcanite reaper ho!! *pets pali* good palli

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:27 pm
by Chimera
Carnifex wrote:
Xakaal wrote:Eh, the fact their entire body is designed to look like a water dwelling animal and at least, my past lore with them in other refrences has me calling them aquatic. I know they are amphibious but i just really find it akward to have hydras running around trying to keep up with their hunter buddy (btw are they going to get a better walk animation? i cannot stress enough how under developed they seem to me.. and im worried their run is going to be extremely choppy)
Those points also apply to crocolisks, though, and crocolisks are tameable.
Crocolisks at least were given the basilisk model and yes, they are amphibious, both of them can only be found in water but crocs were designed with the wholly pure intention to tame. Hydras were not. Hydras have poor animations for life as a pet rather then a npc.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:26 pm
by Carnifex
Xakaal wrote:Crocolisks at least were given the basilisk model and yes, they are amphibious, both of them can only be found in water but crocs were designed with the wholly pure intention to tame. Hydras were not. Hydras have poor animations for life as a pet rather then a npc.
Just pointing out that Blizzard does have a precedent for deciding that hunters should be allowed to tame an aquatic, reptilian animal with clumsy-looking land movement animations. (Hell, have you seen a tarantula run? Those actually are terrestrial and it looks horrible!) I'm not sure I understand your reasoning that because crocolisks and basilisks share the same model, crocolisks are inherently better-suited to be hunter pets--basilisks are not tameable.

Anyway, I'm not trying to change your opinion on hydra taming. If you don't like the idea, that's fine. But unlike, for example, shale spiders, it isn't such a vast departure from more traditional hunter pets.

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:35 pm
by TygerDarkstorm
I'd like to point out that several druid forms are tamable as well:
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With Image and Image being reminiscent of the old night elf cat form.

And after looking at hydras in WMV, I think they'll look adorable as hunter pets waddling on those two little legs of theirs. The only thing I'm disappointed about is that when they attack, it's only the middle head that attacks instead of all three. :(

Re: Confused

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:15 pm
by Ariamodasu
Travel form was a placeholder... they never replaced << So we quietly ignore that one. And hey I'm gonna call basic flight form as a memory lane trip for me! I used to have the black one before they made it brown and though my epic flight is a gorgeous gorgeous model I'm welcome to enjoying my old form right? Tis my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

And I mostly say it for the amount of people wanting to tame my actual Bear/Cat form for some absurd reason. Arc is as close as it's ever gonna get. Hell Cat form for Tauren certainly uses the Lion model as a base as it is, has the same glitched mane dip and everything so not missing out on anything.

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Granted Hydras like many things were not originally animated with being a pet in mind, squiggles like that are understandable as you simply wouldn't notice on a wild mob less you're over powered enough to watch it try and kill you.