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Heaved forbid some of us may have to go out of our way to put a little effort into the game. Yes the tanks and healers get free shots at these mounts, but it's not as if they're exactly hard to obtain in the first place. All of those mounts are easily farmed on your own as a DPS, or you have the option to be a tank or healer. No one is forcing you to do anything--I'm so sick of seeing that argument.
I look forward to shorter queue times and the new BoA bags.
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I can understand why they are implimenting this, however I do not agree that certain rolls should be given added bonuses and others (dps) are being slighted. What I would rather see is something like if a tank or healer ques with this option and the dungeon is completed ALL members of the group get a goody bag. That to me is more fair and balanced. Not everyone has the focus, attention or desire to tank/heal.
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Well said. Alot of "pure dpsers" have been flaming this pretty hard without knowing how its going to play out. basically the argument revolves around either ITS NOT FAIR... or OMG i'll get stuck with a crappy tank!@ (like that doesnt happen already sometimes...)Purrverted wrote:ORRRR you can stop your QQ'ing now, give this a try for a month or two and see how it plays out in the long run.
^^Purrverted wrote: If you are a dps QQ'ing about the idea of tanks always being called to arms and how this and that isnt fair....you can either shut up and color or you can grab a shield.
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After reading some posts http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/224 ... ew_comment
It reminds me that there are a lot of players who "QQ" as you put it, every single patch on how this or that is going to destroy the game, or how this is stupid and i'm going to quit for sure since its unfair.... yet they've continued their subscriptions uninterrupted for 4+ years
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Did you miss the update where we've said that the bag is BoA now?Makoes wrote:After reading the OP and link...
I can understand why they are implimenting this, however I do not agree that certain rolls should be given added bonuses and others (dps) are being slighted. What I would rather see is something like if a tank or healer ques with this option and the dungeon is completed ALL members of the group get a goody bag. That to me is more fair and balanced. Not everyone has the focus, attention or desire to tank/heal.
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Hey now, I like to color! D: I may or may not have some coloring books on hand... >___>Purrverted wrote:you can either shut up and color or you can grab a shield.
I really am wondering about the solo queue thing. I will always prefer a guild/friend run over going in by myself. Hopefully my boyfriend will level his tank fast so I can do heroics with him... *pokes boyfriend*
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Yes, I'll repost the quote even though it was already posted.Xakaal wrote:They decided to make the bags BoA?
Source Link: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1683 ... ll-to-armsWe’ve been following discussions and reading feedback on the Dungeon Finder Call to Arms feature, and appreciate everyone’s opinions on the topic. We wanted to share a few items though that supplement the recent announcement:
The additional reward for completing the Dungeon Finder Call to Arms (called the Satchel of Exotic Mysteries) will be Bind on Account; able to be freely sent to other characters on your account once you receive it.
An error existed in the announcement regarding flasks and potions being picked based on your spec. This is not the case. If someone earns a Satchel of Exotic Mysteries, and if it rolls the random chance to provide a potion or flask, it will be a randomly selected. This helps ensure a broad array of available flasks and potions for all characters.
We also wanted to clarify, mounts that have a possibility to be found in a Satchel of Exotic Mysteries are found with the same rarity as if you had slain the dungeon boss that normally drops them.
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The only thing I dont like about it though is that you have to solo queue to get the goodie bag (IE you couldnt tag along with your BF tank)Miraga wrote:Hey now, I like to color! D: I may or may not have some coloring books on hand... >___>Purrverted wrote:you can either shut up and color or you can grab a shield.
I really am wondering about the solo queue thing. I will always prefer a guild/friend run over going in by myself. Hopefully my boyfriend will level his tank fast so I can do heroics with him... *pokes boyfriend*
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Hmm, well, guess i should work on my druid and possibly my sham... thank god i have at least one support role on wyrmrest and silver hand.
Problem is my computer is very crappy and i bluescreen and lag spike in dungeons and all my graphic settings are set to the possible lowest and im in window'd mode which ppl say helps with the lag. ;^; im gonna have a rough time with getting these baggies
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Yeah, I'm lucky though in that he isn't an avid mount collector. He also has a longer attention span than I do so he can solo queue if he wants to when I get bored.Royi wrote:The only thing I dont like about it though is that you have to solo queue to get the goodie bag (IE you couldnt tag along with your BF tank)Miraga wrote:Hey now, I like to color! D: I may or may not have some coloring books on hand... >___>Purrverted wrote:you can either shut up and color or you can grab a shield.
I really am wondering about the solo queue thing. I will always prefer a guild/friend run over going in by myself. Hopefully my boyfriend will level his tank fast so I can do heroics with him... *pokes boyfriend*
Is this on the PTR now? I just see that it's under PTR notes but I'm not sure which have been implemented yet or not. Also, how much gold is "some"? I guess it doesn't matter much because of all the dailies and quests out there but I'm curious.
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This wont solve the problem either....eventually everyone that plays DPS is gonna be a tank/healer that suck or just quit all together with queing. Oh look! The same problem! Just different role! But wait....the call to arms doesnt apply to DPS. Only tanks and healers.Rikaku wrote:Well yeah you're forced to do something you don't want to do IF you absolutely refuse to go do old heroics from TBC and you have to have those mounts. Obviously you're forced to go out of your way to do something if you want it. So if you don't want to get Anzu by doing a daily heroic, and you want as many attempts at it as your tanks do, then yes. You'll have to queue as the desired class.Jessibelle wrote:If you want the goodies without going into the dungeons, you ARE forced. Those dungeons are still annoying at 85....just sayin.
But I think what everyone is trying to get across is that you don't HAVE to do anything in the game. The entire dungeon LFG system is an option for those who want to use it. Vanity mounts have always been a perk, you don't actually have to have one. So if you don't want to tank/heal, then don't tank heal. =)
Also, the "10 VP is better" idea, isn't solving the problem. Blizzard posted why they arent doing that, it's because people will just get the VP they need and eventually the problem resurfaces. Even at this point, I see people selling their valor points for gold to other players. So no, that doesn't solve the problem.
But with minipets and mounts, you're sure to attract some interest. Sure, not everyone is into that, but some are definitely collectors.
Case in point: This wont solve anything and I pray Blizzard never lets this go Live.
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Who the hell ever said CTA only applies to tanks and healers? Where are people pulling this bad logic from?Jessibelle wrote:This wont solve the problem either....eventually everyone that plays DPS is gonna be a tank/healer that suck or just quit all together with queing. Oh look! The same problem! Just different role! But wait....the call to arms doesnt apply to DPS. Only tanks and healers.Rikaku wrote:Well yeah you're forced to do something you don't want to do IF you absolutely refuse to go do old heroics from TBC and you have to have those mounts. Obviously you're forced to go out of your way to do something if you want it. So if you don't want to get Anzu by doing a daily heroic, and you want as many attempts at it as your tanks do, then yes. You'll have to queue as the desired class.Jessibelle wrote:If you want the goodies without going into the dungeons, you ARE forced. Those dungeons are still annoying at 85....just sayin.
But I think what everyone is trying to get across is that you don't HAVE to do anything in the game. The entire dungeon LFG system is an option for those who want to use it. Vanity mounts have always been a perk, you don't actually have to have one. So if you don't want to tank/heal, then don't tank heal. =)
Also, the "10 VP is better" idea, isn't solving the problem. Blizzard posted why they arent doing that, it's because people will just get the VP they need and eventually the problem resurfaces. Even at this point, I see people selling their valor points for gold to other players. So no, that doesn't solve the problem.
But with minipets and mounts, you're sure to attract some interest. Sure, not everyone is into that, but some are definitely collectors.
Case in point: This wont solve anything and I pray Blizzard never lets this go Live.
Nothing there says this only applies to tanks and healers.The Dungeon Finder: Call to Arms will now identify which class role is currently the least represented in the queue, and offer them additional rewards for entering the Dungeon Finder queue and completing a random level-85 Heroic dungeon.
The least represented class icon will show within the Dungeon Finder to indicate the role that is eligible to earn the bonus reward.
Players must queue solo with the currently indicated least represented class (by the system) and complete the dungeon up to and including the final boss in order to be eligible for the bonus reward.
The bonus reward will be displayed to eligible (system identified as least represented) classes within the UI.
Once the dungeon is completed the eligible player will receive a goodie bag with various potential rewards including: gold, rare gems, non-combat pets, and (very rare) mounts.
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Anyway, DPS are going to get CtA maybe once or twice per year. Woo?
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Thank you Saturo. Tyger missed it totally.Saturo wrote:How likely is it that there's EVER going to be a surplus of tanks and healers? I've gotten' instant queue as DPS once, on a seasonal boss so pathetic you didn't need tank OR healer. Seriously, I did it with five DPS most of the time.
Anyway, DPS are going to get CtA maybe once or twice per year. Woo?
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You people act like these mounts are extremely hard to get on your own or that this system is going to kill you. Either tank or heal and be happy they're making the bags BoA, or be happy that your queues as a DPS are being lowered.
For fuck's sake, they haven't even implemented the goddamn thing yet. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.
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The surplus wasn't with tanks or healers compared to DPS, it was with BAD tanks or healers compared to the decent ones we have now.
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