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High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:50 am
by Rynbi
I have a question I'm hoping someone can answer. I apologize if it's been answered already. :3

I swore I was going to wait for the Molten Front to die down a little before camping Skarr, but he's the only pet I still need and I don't have much else to do. xD I have a High-Powered Bolt Gun from Engineering and realized it says it interrupts casting. I've never used it on anything since I power leveled my professions and just kept it in my bags in order to make stuff.

I'm not specced into the MM interrupt, and since I'm not going to be hardcore camping him (I'll probably just be going by once in awhile during weird hours), I'd rather not respec if it's not necessary. So does anyone know if the High-Powered Bolt gun will work for interrupting Skarr's cast?

If not, is it possible for Ancient Hysteria + a Potion of Speed to be enough to tame him before he casts it with my 19.09% haste (1854 rating)? I'd hate to try and find out it's not enough and end up losing him. D:

Thanks to anyone who can help. ^_^;

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:35 am
by CrystalKitten
If you go up on the rocks by taking a right, and heading to the gust that's there as you come back around, that haste alone is enough to complete the tame flawlessly. That's how I got my Skarr :D I'm not sure exactly what percentage haste that gives you, but I had a base of 8% if someone else knows and wants to do the math. I finished the tame before even the first cast went off (which I've heard might be just a regular fireball?).

I think the rule of thumb that I've heard is you need your tame beast to be 6seconds or faster. But someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:37 am
by Fafnir
If the Bolt Gun is actually an interrupt (i.e. test it out on a mob that casts that you know is interruptable, and produces a spell_interrupted combat log entry) then it should work.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:05 pm
by Rynbi
Thanks everyone ^_^

I'll definitely test out the bolt gun and see what happens to make sure. :3

I was able to get that 100% haste increase buff once when I was wandering around up there, but I'm worried about depending too much on it and not being able to find the right spot to get the buff again.

I just recently tamed Terrorpene with Ancient Hysteria + Potion of Speed + Haste Elixir and I'm fairly certain my tame beast cast was less than five seconds. I think I'll test it on a random mob to be sure. ^_^ If it's not, I'll just go grab some haste trinkets somewhere. xD

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:18 pm
by Worba
Macro this:

/use Potion of Speed (etc)
/use Deterrence
/use Tame Beast

If the tame finishes at about the same time that deterrence fades off, it was a 5 second tame.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:53 pm
by Acherontia
This vid I made shows how to use the "rock buff" only; if there's not tons of other campers there, consider giving it a go. It made my Karkin tame a complete joke. :)

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:11 pm
by Rynbi
That macro with the haste pot + deterrence + tame beast is actually what I used on Terrorpene, but I was nervous and wasn't paying attention to the timing. xD I'll go try it on something and see what happens. :3

And thank you for the video, Acherontia. ^^ I'll keep my Skarr camping to quiet hours for now so that I'm able to get that buff beforehand.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:46 pm
by Fafnir
tbh I tamed my first Skarr on live with about 10% haste from gear and only the wind buff (I'd forgotten about the whole interrupt thing, so...) It worked JUST BARELY, but yeah.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:16 pm
by Miyon
CrystalKitten wrote:If you go up on the rocks by taking a right, and heading to the gust that's there as you come back around, that haste alone is enough to complete the tame flawlessly. That's how I got my Skarr :D I'm not sure exactly what percentage haste that gives you, but I had a base of 8% if someone else knows and wants to do the math. I finished the tame before even the first cast went off (which I've heard might be just a regular fireball?).

I think the rule of thumb that I've heard is you need your tame beast to be 6seconds or faster. But someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
As far as I know, the regular fireball spell is consistent, but the actual barrage, is a complete random cast. Or it has a cooldown, I'm not sure. I think I went at it on Karkin 5-6 times before I finally got it right, and the next to last time I tried, I stood there waiting for a good 5-6 normal fireballs before the barrage casted. Had I actually paid attention to that, instead of waiting, I could have gotten it flawlessly. I did have tame beast going, mind that. I died anyway, because I had no deterrence, methinks.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:37 pm
by Sasrei
Alot of haste will work great to but do let us know about the gun :)

For BM spec, use a corehound, the lava breathe ability slows down his cast timer and really you dont even agro him when your core hound uses it. This slows down his casting of barrage drastically. Have your core hound cast it, cast his little heroism, dismiss or release him and hit tame (any extra haste will work to).

Ive done this way a bit to, so it works just as well ^.^

And after seeing the video I noticed the channel bar doesnt even finish and the tame beast on karkins bar doesnt finish casting either. I wonder if its cause its cause you halved the time or what but, its very interesting and very odd.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:50 pm
by CrystalKitten
Sasrei wrote:And after seeing the video I noticed the channel bar doesnt even finish and the tame beast on karkins bar doesnt finish casting either. I wonder if its cause its cause you halved the time or what but, its very interesting and very odd.
I actually noticed that as well when I used the wind buff method. I don't even know if my cast bar was halfway through when my Suki (Skarr) hopped over to my side. So I'm not sure if the cast bar scales with your haste or not.

Re: High-Powered Bolt Gun and Skarr?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:19 pm
by Rynbi
CrystalKitten wrote:
Sasrei wrote:And after seeing the video I noticed the channel bar doesnt even finish and the tame beast on karkins bar doesnt finish casting either. I wonder if its cause its cause you halved the time or what but, its very interesting and very odd.
I actually noticed that as well when I used the wind buff method. I don't even know if my cast bar was halfway through when my Suki (Skarr) hopped over to my side. So I'm not sure if the cast bar scales with your haste or not.
The cast bar doesn't scale, if I remember correctly. When I tamed Terrorpene, the tame finished before my cast bar got half way through. Same with Skoll. :3

Thank you Sasrei. ^^ The last time I actually used a corehound for anything other than a Ancient Hysteria/dismiss pet macro was way back when my hunter was level 60. xD So I never really knew what any of their abilities did, aside from AH.