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Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:04 am
by yozban
Guys from many many years ago , I always had an idea that warlocks should enslave demons permanently like hunters !
it's cool to see those warlocks to camp around for rare demon spawn ! and it also should help the class to have more fan as we really lack warlocks . and they could :headbang: rock like hunters with rare pets if they have some rare demons at their hands ! from super sexy female demons up to heavy armored fell hunters or maybe dual wield fell guards or Imps that their fire balls looks like a chaos bolt but same damage ! many ideas for them as well .

so is that cool idea ? :headbang:

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:04 pm
by Shinjiro
I'd tame a Satyr. Nothing else. Freaking love Satyr.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:43 pm
by Ebonrook
Shinjiro wrote:I'd tame a Satyr. Nothing else. Freaking love Satyr.
This a thousand times. I, too, thought that warlocks should have went out to enslave a demon of their choice. Maybe we'd see more variety instead of "You're affliction? Succubus. Demonology? Get that Felguard out, sir."

Balance issues might be a problem, but maybe they could bunch certain demons into families like we have for hunters – just with certain universal skill sets so there would not be a need for a ton of recoding (hopefully).

So, hm...

This is all done by the fly, so bear with me. (Please ignore the "family names" @_@)


Casters - Imps, Dark Imps, Gan'garg (that's a stretch), other annoying things that shoot things.
Hexers - Succubi, Shivarra, Satyr, Incubi (NYI, but at least Blizz wants to seem to include them?).
Wardens - Felhunter, Beholders, maaaaybe those void hounds?
Tanks - ...Various flavors of void creatures (I know I'd love one of those spindly void horror wraiths.) and maybe Mo'arg?

Specials (Demonology only) - Felguard, Nathrezim, Wrathguard, or maybe a minor pit-lord.


I think pit lords are a major stretch since, uh, they're pit lords... Doomguards and Infernals can stay as limited duration summons, perhaps, since I can't think of what to do with them.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:13 pm
by Darven
No. All I have to say is no. Let Hunters be Hunters and Warlocks be Warlocks. That is all.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:38 pm
by Ket Shi
Did you guys see that official post that talked about potential male/female models for warlock pets? It's a step in the right direction, though I really wish that you could choose a demonic minion to fill a role. Every warlock having the same model, same color, is really boring.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:20 am
by CrystalKitten
I think if anything, they should just have it be a random skin of different classes of demons or whatever. It'd keep the idea of you're kinda sticking your hand into the snake pit and don't know what you're going to pull out, while also letting there be a bit more variety (example, there's at least a few different imp models/skins out there). And if someone doesn't like their skin, there's the new "gimme a new minion" guy that the implemented so people can draw again for a different name.

I don't think though that they should be similar to being tameable. That's a unique trait of hunters. But a way to add more variety would be cool

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:12 am
by Chimera
I love my locks but im tired of using the same demons a thousand times over (felhound though i love <3) and i would LOOOOVE to see some new ones.

Yes we might get new gender demons, we might even get to choose which gender we get (hope so) but hell id kill for a variety, a satyr would fit perfectly in affliction imo, and perhaps another demon of some sorts, like maybe a beholder (-shrug- im just throwing that one in cause i cant think of any others) in destro and that way we can have a choice of 2 demons in afflict, 3 in demon, and 2 in destro. I also would loooove to catch our demons, not just learn a spell.

I remember when you had to do the quest line for each demon, i want that again-- except this time 'round you need to enslave your specific demon after you rip it from its world into ours through some summoning spell.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:03 am
by Teigan
I am a hunter at heart...so I love that idea. I've often wished it could be so. :)

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:00 am
by Lisaara
Teigan wrote:I am a hunter at heart...so I love that idea. I've often wished it could be so. :)
Me too. I might have more interest in warlocks.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:14 am
by Ziarre
Can't say I'm much for it...lore-wise, most warlocks seem to view demons as little more than tools. Thus the randomized names, the more-or-less generic appearances. Hunter and pet is more of a partnership.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:43 pm
by yozban
Ziarre wrote:Can't say I'm much for it...lore-wise, most warlocks seem to view demons as little more than tools. Thus the randomized names, the more-or-less generic appearances. Hunter and pet is more of a partnership.
they use them as tool because that's what they have and they can't do anything much for them . but if they could get a rare demon , they could make partnership as well ! and since enslave demons is really really useless , oh well they could make lots of good out of that ability . and I am not saying they should enslave exactly how hunters tame , perhaps they can change they change casting enslave to be a dot . and while you dot a demon with that , if you defeat the demon , instead of that he die , it will be your enslave . for ever . . .

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:44 pm
by Azunara
For the love of all that is good and right:

I don't give a damn about new skins or warlock pets. I can live happily without them. But please, please, please let me nickname my demons. Not every demon is going to be named Sardoooikan or Zotlegorplenob or some random crap like that. And I'm sure a demon wouldn't mind a nickname. Hell, it can't mind, you've bound it to your will. (Which, hunters technically do as well, just saying.)

So please. Let Maxwell actually, truly, become Maxwell.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:51 pm
by Kurenio
Didn't read the entire thread, but I pray to god warlock never become the same as a hunter. they are 2 different pet classes with unique attributes. Thats how it needs to stay. Their pet system however does need a huge upgrade.

Shameless post to my suggestion
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743689120#1

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:55 pm
by Azunara
OH.

And locks should get demon corehounds over hunters. Just saying. xD

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:00 am
by Mindsprocket
I certainly don't think that Warlocks should be exactly like hunters. They're different classes with different mechanics and that's how it should be.

That said, I wouldn't mind a bit of variety in terms of looks. Being able to choose what kind of imp or voidwalker you want would be nice. I would also like it if we could go out and catch our demons ourselves. It kinda bucks me that we just get our demons from the trainer and that's that. The idea is that warlocks violently pull the demons from their world, beat them to a pulp and then force to do our bidding. It would be nice if there was a game mechanic for getting our demons that reflects that (like the class quests did, though going out and finding our own demons to enslave permanently could work too).

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:12 am
by Vephriel
CrystalKitten wrote:I think if anything, they should just have it be a random skin of different classes of demons or whatever. It'd keep the idea of you're kinda sticking your hand into the snake pit and don't know what you're going to pull out, while also letting there be a bit more variety (example, there's at least a few different imp models/skins out there). And if someone doesn't like their skin, there's the new "gimme a new minion" guy that the implemented so people can draw again for a different name.

I don't think though that they should be similar to being tameable. That's a unique trait of hunters. But a way to add more variety would be cool
I like this idea! Warlock minions really do need some love, and it would be great to see some additional models or demon types added in.

Re: Warlocks could be same as hunters . . .

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:12 pm
by Morven
It'd certainly be nice to see a bit more variety in them. One of my alts is a worgen warlock (for Added Alliterative Appeal, doncha know), now at about 63, and I've always thought it would be cool to even just get different colors for them, even at random.