druid panda?

[starkittens]

ok, i dont know if this was mentioned, but, can (the) Panda's be druids? (or no?) if so....what would they look like? (i love druids....a panda druid says one thing, EPIC!!!!)

[Cerele]

no

[Miacoda]

It wouldn't make sense lore-wise.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure Blizzard doesnt like the idea of a bear turning into a... Bear.

[Lisaara]

ok, i dont know if this was mentioned, but, can (the) Panda's be druids? (or no?) if so....what would they look like? (i love druids....a panda druid says one thing, EPIC!!!!)

Pandaren CAN NOT be Druids, Paladins, Warlocks, DKs.

Also Pandaria was shrouded in mist before the sundering so there would've been no night elf to teach them.

[starkittens]

ok

[Wain]

There was a reference by one of the devs to the possibility, though. I must find the quote. Basically it said that while it made no sense for them to already be druids, they were now exposed to druidism in the outside world.

Personally I think their philosophy would gel very well with druidism and they'd take to it very naturally.

Must go find the quote. Pretty sure it was from Blizzcon.

[Wain]

Ah, one quote from the Lore and Story Q&A at Blizzcon was:

Why cant they roll Druid then? The bear as a bear argument is crap.
Monday morning we will yell at the design dudes. Pandaria was not there during the Sundering so I guess Cenarion was not there teaching them. I still think druids are out, that might change though.

That one means the possibility still exists, but it's not so likely. That's NOT the one I remember reading though. I'll keep looking...

[Lisaara]

Yeah thats not what was said at Blizzcon either. They didn't use the bear into a bear argument.

[Andine]

Is bear-man turning into a bear any more ridiculous than a wolf-man turning into a cat?

[Lisaara]

Is bear-man turning into a bear any more ridiculous than a wolf-man turning into a cat?

Again, that wasnt an argument really used if I recall. They explained it via lore how it wouldn't work.

[Monica Gems]

It wouldn't make sense lore-wise.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure Blizzard doesnt like the idea of a bear turning into a... Bear.

But they're ok with a dog turning into a cat and a cow turning into a tree? I rolled my eyes at that excuse.

[Vephriel]

Yeah thats not what was said at Blizzcon either. They didn't use the bear into a bear argument.

They did actually bring this statement up first when discussing the druid matter, and later supplemented with the lore reasonings.

[Lisaara]

Yeah thats not what was said at Blizzcon either. They didn't use the bear into a bear argument.

They did actually bring this statement up first when discussing the druid matter, and later supplemented with the lore reasonings.

Ah. In Blizzcon, they didn't really use it. They said it was more than just the bear into a bear thing, then they went on to explain the lore.

[Sasrei]

So so far panadas cant turn into a bear or cat, have wings, be undead, or uh.. be dot happy?

I guess it makes sense for some of them Ret bear does not give you wings!

mmk im done now, carry on

[Cerele]

Well honestly the monk race choice didnt make much sense either

Now that they are here for about a day, all other races but the ones added in cata can play them
so why cant the pandaren learn to be druids in a day too?

"Humans and draenei have had monks"
They are monks but under a different belief, the monks in Azeroth currently are ones that have been either not fighting period, or punching at players, (SM)
Pandaren monks have a completely unique style of combat compaired to in game monks, where as the normal ones just run at you punch pray and drop loot, these ones have a very interesting combat style of punches kicking, and etc.
so my point is, if the races of azeroth can learn something that seems just nonsenical for some of the people, why cant the new race learn something that would seem almost natural to them?

[Lisaara]

Well honestly the monk race choice didnt make much sense either

Now that they are here for about a day, all other races but the ones added in cata can play them
so why cant the pandaren learn to be druids in a day too?

"Humans and draenei have had monks"
They are monks but under a different belief, the monks in Azeroth currently are ones that have been either not fighting period, or punching at players, (SM)
Pandaren monks have a completely unique style of combat compaired to in game monks, where as the normal ones just run at you punch pray and drop loot, these ones have a very interesting combat style of punches kicking, and etc.
so my point is, if the races of azeroth can learn something that seems just nonsenical for some of the people, why cant the new race learn something that would seem almost natural to them?

Because it's not natural. The night elves were the first druids. Before the sundering, the pandaren went into the mists of Pandaria and have not been seen since(aside from Chen). In order for them to learn, they would've needed a night elf....but none knew of Pandaria. They focus on Chi(Light), not nature. Those are very different elements of focus.

[Andine]

Because it's not natural. The night elves were the first druids. Before the sundering, the pandaren went into the mists of Pandaria and have not been seen since(aside from Chen). In order for them to learn, they would've needed a night elf....but none knew of Pandaria. They focus on Chi(Light), not nature. Those are very different elements of focus.

And yet Gilneas had druids since a long time - long enough for them to be called "keepers of the old ways". In my opinion, druidism, as a nature magic, can develop naturally in any people close enough to nature. Just a short indoctrination by the Cenarion Circle can bring them up to speed with regular druids (like the Worgen).

[Lisaara]

Because it's not natural. The night elves were the first druids. Before the sundering, the pandaren went into the mists of Pandaria and have not been seen since(aside from Chen). In order for them to learn, they would've needed a night elf....but none knew of Pandaria. They focus on Chi(Light), not nature. Those are very different elements of focus.

And yet Gilneas had druids since a long time - long enough for them to be called "keepers of the old ways". In my opinion, druidism, as a nature magic, can develop naturally in any people close enough to nature. Just a short indoctrination by the Cenarion Circle can bring them up to speed with regular druids (like the Worgen).

The gilneans met druids, if I recall the lore properly, before the wall went up. Then of course once their home got destroyed, they live with the night elves in Darnassus.

My fiance also pointed out Druidism is more of a western culture, while a monk leans more towards eastern culture. Atleast thats how it's being presented.

[Andine]

The gilneans met druids, if I recall the lore properly, before the wall went up. Then of course once their home got destroyed, they live with the night elves in Darnassus.

My fiance also pointed out Druidism is more of a western culture, while a monk leans more towards eastern culture. Atleast thats how it's being presented.

It's all tangled with the story of the Druids of the Pack. Their influence had helped to shape Gilnean druidism. But the point remains - a race close enough to nature can develop druidism on its own, even though it might be a bit unorthodox (and get indoctrinated properly by the Cenarion Circle after arrival).

While I do understand the "culture clash" it would seemingly create, worshipping nature can be meshed fairly well with Chinese-style culture. It can be closely related to more shamanistic concepts.

[Lisaara]

and there's the point they're already shamans too. Most races (excluding Taurens) aren't both druids and shamanism.

Also a shaman isnt connected with nature. They're connected with the elementals. Nature magic is different than Elemental magic.

So really no matter how you slice it, Pandaren aren't that intune with nature. They know a different kind of magic. They aren't specialized with magic.

Druid of the Scythe thing was...night elves....again. The night elves created the worgen. *points to the comics*