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Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:50 pm
by zedxrgal
I love questing but really love doing dungeons. Gain levels faster of course and usually some great loot. I also use a dungeon run to get a pet up to my level if they're a low level tame.
One thing I've encountered a lot is a dungeon leader offering 'advice' on how to play. This is really annoying to me at times in their delivery. If it's something that really is helpful to me then I'm glad. If not then I just become annoyed.
I'm finding a lot of hit and miss including what's taboo to one is not taboo to another.

Why is growl on so taboo for some?
Why is growl off so taboo for others?

I appreciate advice but don't really appreciate being told how to play and what to do. Last night another player was telling people what to do in another language. She finally realized it then started telling people in English. She first told me growl off. Then it was growl on, run this aspect, run that. I finally whispered to her "stop telling me what to do or I will leave". I didn't hear a pst out of her after that. As I said I'm all for accepting advice from someone who is an asset and help to the party. But not a person who's a control freak that wants to tell everyone how to play their toons.

Sorry to be long winded and end rant.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:52 pm
by Vephriel
I have never heard of Growl Off being taboo. o.O That's just....bizarre.

The only time I turn Growl on is if something happens like the tank dies or a mob aggroes to the healer. I use my pet as an emergency tank until the real tank can take it back or whatnot.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:59 pm
by Dakonic
I do exactly what veph does. =]

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:06 pm
by Narasalu
celestial88 wrote:I do exactly what veph does. =]
Likewise, except I cannot stand having people try to tell me what to do. :?

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:08 pm
by zedxrgal
Vephriel wrote:I have never heard of Growl Off being taboo. o.O That's just....bizarre.

The only time I turn Growl on is if something happens like the tank dies or a mob aggroes to the healer. I use my pet as an emergency tank until the real tank can take it back or whatnot.
Leave it to me to always encounter the bizarre stuff. But yes, it's happened. Most of the time it's off but I've had the times when someone goes weird and asks me to turn it on.

On thing I just thought of is I've been asked to turn it on in heavy mobs areas and right before a boss fight. Not sure what the help is but it's happened.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:11 pm
by Saturo
Well, it would take about 5k damage off of the tank before biting the grass.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:28 pm
by FuzzyDolly
Growl on when soloing, growl off for groups is my general motto. However, I do manually click it if the tank is going down and I want to relieve some pressure from him. That being said, only do that if you've told the tank what you plan on doing ahead of time. Learnered that the hard way. lol

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:37 pm
by Ryno
FuzzyDolly wrote:Growl on when soloing, growl off for groups is my general motto.
Aye, that's how it should go really, hehe.

Only reason to turn it on is a fallback if a tank goes down, to absorb one hit maybe in higher level stuff...

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:10 pm
by Sarayana
Yeah, standard for grouping is growl off. As a tank, I hate when hunters leave growl off because 1) it makes my life harder and 2) it reflects poorly on hunters everywhere that idiots like that are running around messing with what is ultimately the way Blizz has planned group interaction to work. *sigh* I can't believe anyone would tell you to switch growl on outside emergencies... Idiots, all of them.

In fact, I'm so used to having growl off now that I do most of my soloing like that too. Not intentionally, obviously. I usually realise when my I've ripped aggro off my pet a third time and FD is on cooldown. Usually.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:07 pm
by zedxrgal
Thanks for the replies.

Allow me to say that I enter the instance /dungeon with growl off. I know it takes away from the tanks job with it on. But just thought it odd last night that this gal was hell bent on having it on or off even when the tank wasn't in trouble. Of course she was telling him what to do also. :lol: At any rate.
I had thought of it and was just looking for insight from others as to why this happens sometimes.
My best guess was that they're inexperienced either as a dungeon leader /player or don't understand the way that growl works.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:24 pm
by kamoodle5
In a way, I find Growl almost as an emergency ability in instance runs. Unless if there are no main tanks, the pet shouldn't try to pull too much aggro when Growl is active and when the main tank is doing alright. It's like being careful to not pull aggro yourself. I think it's better to avoid confusion when the healers are healing the main tank to find that the main tank had just lost aggro all of a sudden and then the healers have to concentrate on the pet to prevent it from dying.

For this part, I am mainly seeing tenacity pets as the secondary tanks if there are no back-up tanks (even though ferocity pets do more damage) and especially since most of their talents at the bottom of their talent tree are abilities warriors have (Taunt, Intercept). I've seen that video in Youtube of that cat that was able to hold top aggro against Onyxia throughout most of the fight (except when Onyxia flew, of course). Good thing pets have more than one way to gain aggro in case something goes out of hand, tenacity or not.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:25 pm
by Ryno
Sarayana wrote:As a tank, I hate when hunters leave growl off
I see your typo! /calls out
kamoodle5 wrote:Unless if there are no main tanks, the pet shouldn't try to pull too much aggro when Growl is active and when the main tank is doing alright.
Maybe at 80, if the tank is geared. But at lower levels, I can say paladin tanking is hell if I don't get a second to get everything together and consecrate.

Re: Growl on is taboo, growl off is taboo????

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:26 pm
by Palladiamorsdeus
Yea, before bottom tier talents, paladins need at least a couple of ticks off of consecration before you really start in on the AoE, and probably even the single target. I uh, really do need to keep that in mind.