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Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:29 am
by Kalliope
A friend of mine told me that he purchased the season 3 pvp set out in Netherstorm, so I flew out there immediately to verify - and there it was! So if anyone is looking for seasons 1-3, they're all out there now, plus there's a vendor with the weapons as well.

Now the bad news: a bunch of the level 70 offpieces are still missing.

BUT there's more good news! I ticketed the missing gear (since my gladiator offpieces are among them) and lucked into a truly wonderful GM, who said that I was the first to notice the gear was missing from the game (unsurprising; it's obscure!) and that s/he was writing up a report for it. :) Yay! So at some point, this will be fixed! ^_^

(No word behind the scenes on hydras. I figured I had to ask because the GM was so sweet and attentive!)


So I located the related blue post.
Level 60 Gear Models for Transmogrification
The items out in the world (Marshals, Grand Marshal’s, High Warlord, etc) that use the level 60 PvP art are un-transmogrifiable (including the item level 115 stuff that shares the name from Burning Crusade).

In Area 52 a set of vendors has replaced the PvP Vendors who used to live there. Grex Brainboiler, Krixel Pinchwhistle, Tini Smalls, Kezzik the Striker, Big Zokk Torquewrench, and Leeni “Smiley” Smalls. These vendors sell new, transmogrifiable versions of the classic armor to players who have the Feat of Strength for Legionnaire/Knight-Captain or higher under the old PvP system.

There was a bug with the Feat of Strength granting access to these items, but was hotfixed within the last couple of minutes. If you meet the criteria log out and back in and you should be able to access the vendor.

The design intent with the Feat of Strength achievement requirement was specifically to limit these particular art styles to players who earned them through the OG (and relentlessly difficult) PvP honor system, while keeping the door open to reward them to more people in the future.

In a future patch the items sold by the Area 52 vendors will also be renamed ‘Replica of’ to be more consistent with the items sold by the Darkmoon Faire – they’re currently exact duplicates of the original items that allow transmogrification, which is obviously a bit confusing.

Potentially related, since he’s in the same area, Kezzik the Striker sells inaccessible Season 1 Gladiator’s, Season 2 Merciless Gladiator’s, and Season 3 Vengeful Gladiator’s gear to all players, as the majority of that gear didn’t have restrictions.

(source)
So, obviously a good deal of that information directly conflicts with what I was told. Hopefully, the offpieces that complete the sets will be made available to all, since it seems like a fairly large oversight otherwise.

Sorry for the confusion!

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:04 am
by Akyo
i can finaly have the blue bow of pure beauty i always wanted Q_Q(happy q-q)
BUT I NO HAZ GEAR SET TO MATCH!!!

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:28 pm
by Lupis
I'm actively searching for a set to match that bow, as well as the magma gun. xD And yayyyy, my other hunter can get the rest of his Riftstalker look-alike! (Even more yay, the black Demonstalker is back! Love that set!)

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:31 pm
by Vephriel
The Riftstalker and Demonstalker were still available on the Isle of Quel'Danas, that's where I got mine a while ago. :)

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:34 pm
by Lupis
Were they? I had no idea. xD

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:42 pm
by Magli
You fixed the poison slime pipes? ;)

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:45 pm
by Kalliope
*nods to Lupis* Those two were there, but the season 3 set was missing for some reason. And now it's back. :D

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:58 pm
by Worba
I must be missing something very simple, but when I go to the netherstorm vendors, everything shows as red even items for which I'm the right class and level - and if I try to buy one, I get a message saying "that item is locked".

What are the prereqs for buying from the netherstorm pvp vendors?

EDIT: ok, looked it up on Google - I guess this stuff is only for people who scored a high PVP rank back in Vanilla.

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:15 pm
by Kalliope
That's a good question, especially if you have honor on you. I didn't actually try to buy anything, so this is news to me. >_< Definitely sounds like there are multiple bugs out there then.

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:21 pm
by Britany
so is season 3 vengeful gladiator stuff? i want the lightbringer lookalike set for my Paladin

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:37 pm
by Kalliope
Britany wrote:so is season 3 vengeful gladiator stuff? i want the lightbringer lookalike set for my Paladin
Yes it is! Although it sounds like all the gear on the new vendors was added to the game without removing the prerequisite rating, hrm.

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:39 pm
by Mychelle
Can anyone here confirm if the Level 70 PVP gear can be Transmoged at all though? I havent had a chance to check, last I was able to check though, I couldnt get Lvl 60 PVP gear to Transmog at all. Made me sad. ;.;

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:42 pm
by Kalliope
Wearing one of the level 70 sets myself right now. :)

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:49 pm
by Mychelle
Kalliope wrote:Wearing one of the level 70 sets myself right now. :)
Squeal! Awesome. Im so going to go check out that vendor now...

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:58 pm
by Kalliope
It seems that the vendors are bugged and won't unlock their gear until the new season opens. x_x I just ticketed that and a fix request is being made.

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:00 pm
by Worba
<-- wants mah claymore >:[

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:02 pm
by Kalliope
Well, it's a race to see if a fix goes in before the new season starts. ;)

Otherwise, at least we know how long we have to wait. :D

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:07 pm
by Worba
In the thread I read, they said they'd actually fixed the bug in Area 52 - but that you still need to have some sort of PVP rank to access the gear (e.g. enough PVP to be considered a dedicated PVP'er).

In other words, you can now transmog from lvl 60 gear... but only if you've actually done the PVP. Which by itself makes a certain amount of sense, but it just seems weird that you can buy and transmog from any other PVP gear ~without~ having done PVP...

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:19 pm
by Kalliope
That's the bug. ;)

Re: Good news, everyone! [regarding old PvP gear]

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:23 pm
by Worba
So... not fixed, after all?

Either way though, once that bug has been removed the blues have said they still intend lvl 60 pvp gear to only be available for transmogging, to PVP'ers. So someone like me can have their pick of any other PVP art in the game... except that. o.O

Not the end of the world, just seems odd.