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A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:31 am
by Silivren
So last night when I was looking for Savage a dk came up to me. I wont name him but the conversation basically went like this..
DK - So you looking for that tiger huh?
Me - Yep.
DK - Cool, well I have a proposition for ya..
Me - Uh k?
DK - Well I can have another hunter in my guild help you find all the trackable pets you want so you can tame them, and I'll give you 10k gold right now but theres a catch.
Me - You're really confusing me, but go on..
DK - Well hunters, not you of course, are acting like entitled, spoiled little brats. In other expansions I'd grief them when they tried to tame, but with this one I cant. My buddy wont help me follow hunters and flare the rare beasts so we can kill them before they're tamed. You help me and for each hunter we grief, I give you 10k. My buddy will help me help you if he thinks I'm actually being nice.
Me - You're serious? I'm pretty sure what you just said to me is reportable, thats so not right. Its rude too, I think your buddy has the right idea in not helping you. I wont either.
Then he basically cussed me out, said I was like every other entitled hunter in this game and that we're Blizzard's pets. So my question, can I report this guy? He basically DID nothing BUT he tried to egt me to help him do something, which I would take as griefing and I think this hints that he may grief in the future.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:31 pm
by Zhinru
I would put up a ticket, if only to learn if Blizzard considers that griefing. I mean, flushing out rares specifically to kill them sounds like something Blizzard would consider a "valid strategy". If they're killing them from under a tame, that might get into griefing territory.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:15 pm
by Kalliope
It can't hurt to report him. There might not be much that can be done since the worst he actually did was swear at you, but at the very least, Blizzard will know that he fully intended to grief people if they get reports in the future about him succeeding at doing so.
I don't even understand why he would want to do this in Pandaria; the respawn timers are so low that there's absolutely no practical way of him pulling this off without camping pretty much constantly. If anything, he'd be griefing himself by wasting his own time, as well as the collaborating hunter (not that he can even find one to join him, yay hunters!).
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:03 pm
by Loki
There's actually an opportunity here to make some money in a far better way off this jerk if you had a hunter friend at Lv 90, have him/her pretend they were looking for the pet, tell the guy you saw a hunter after it (who is actually your friend), kill it, get the 10k, and split it between you and your hunter friend. He wastes his time, you make money, and the pets respawn after 1-2 hours anyway so you aren't really hurting anybody.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:06 pm
by Novikova
Oh please, when will people learn giving us options for a feature of our class - that unlike ANY other class can be kept from us by griefing - doesn't make us special snowflakes. We don't even get our own scenarios/quests (Hi, Warlocks!).
Giving us options for our pets, which we NEED as part of our class, doesn't mean blizzard thinks we're its favorites. Eesh. I'm really glad they made the hunter rares hard to grief.
I'd definitely at least report him and see how it goes.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:45 pm
by Shade
Report him for cursing you and and include the entire message.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:55 am
by Chimera
If he was swearing at you personally, im pretty sure thats right off the bat verbal assault. Then a type of griefing and um, not sure if im using this word right.. blackmail(?) and definitely forcefully bribing against the will of the person being charged, cause of what he explained in that sort of money making game of his which im pretty sure isnt allowed (charging someone for items or gold in return for not slaughtering an npc). And another round of griefing for the actual act of killing npc's that arent even designed for them (cant pull savage out of stealth without a hunter flaring) or are actively being tamed by a hunter.
Thats like 3 (at least 2) different reportable offences and one of which is possibly a mix of two or three different offences, depending on how one assess's the conversation
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:06 am
by Lisaara
I'd say report him. He verbally assaulted you, for one. Two, he was bribing you to try and affect other peoples game play aka steal tames.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:25 pm
by Tankperson
I hope the rng gods return the favor for greifing on him. Or if he should ever play a hunter he learns what it means to loose a rare you've been trying to find for days.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:45 pm
by Castile
What a douche, report his ass. Seriously who does that?!
Oh we're blizzards fav class are we? Seen our end game damage compared to other classes?? yeah I don't think so lol! God DK's don't make a good name for themselves do they?
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:50 am
by Novikova
People seem to get the idea that just because hunters get animals they have to go tame that we're super special pancakes. The new tracking helps cut down on griefing and griefing tickets, which helps them in the end. It's a simple, elegant solution and generally beats the pants off waiting for NPCscan (And hoping it's not some flagged wanker setting your scanner off).
But people also don't realize that BECAUSE we have to go tame our pets - hunters are easily griefable and can lose out on DPS/whatever if we don't go get those pets. No other class can have something killed from underneath them that they can use.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:27 pm
by Kittykat
Wait,
DKs get a free mount and fast riding speed for completing a thirty second quest, five minutes after character creation.
They get a full set of matched Blue quality plate thirty minutes or less after character creation, for completing a questline so easy a 7 year old can do it.
If they choose a spec that uses a pet full-time, they can summon one with no reagent and no searching, with a spellcast that takes seconds. They never receive demands from a raid leader to choose a different pet because of buffs.
Hunters start at level one, and have to gain twenty levels before they are eligible to purchase a mount/riding skill. Forty levels for fast riding.
They must quest/dungeon/craft gear to improve on their level one white quality gear.
They cannot choose a spec that doesn't need a pet. All hunters need a pet in order to be effective. While all hunters now get a pet at character creation, most will at some point choose to acquire more pets/different pet types. Hunters are the only class in the game who can choose a pet, but also the only class who have to worry about other players killing the pet while acquiring it.
Which class is the favored one?
Sorry, but I'm hoping this jerkwad gets reported for griefing and a timeout or ban. Hunters getting challenge tames and rare-look pets doesn't affect DK playstyle in the slightest. It just gives hunters who enjoy a challenge something fun to do with their class.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:52 pm
by Silivren
Slight Update: I did report him. The GM basically told me that they had already caught him trying to persuade another hunter to help him. The GM told me that a report came in about the DK and he was being disciplined and handled as they saw fit. He told me that what the DK was doing was in a sense griefing and illegal gambling(I think thats what he said I cant remember) in WoW. Basically I see it as something like that is like back in cata and wotlk when people would hold the rare pet hostage and charge you gold to tame it.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:07 pm
by Kalliope
Great! Yay GMs.

Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:11 pm
by Agravaine
Good!!! Thank you Kerlina, that was diligent. Now he has a record and this will show other sleazebags what happens if they try to use us against ourselves.
By the bye, winter is here.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:49 pm
by Silivren
Agravaine wrote:Good!!! Thank you Kerlina, that was diligent. Now he has a record and this will show other sleazebags what happens if they try to use us against ourselves.
By the bye, winter is here.

So it is! Does that happen to be Ghost in your siggy?
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:46 am
by Lisaara
Sweet! Glad the GM got this bastard a record.
Re: A New Approach To Griefing, Can I Report It?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:19 pm
by Agravaine