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Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAIL.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:12 pm
by Ryai
That I can't say, but there will be a Twilight Highlands Battleground called Twin Peaks. The Alliance will be working with the Wildhammers in a struggle for land against the Dragonmaws backed by the Horde.
WHAT.

WHAT.

AURG.

Great Horde get hit with the lolz evil bat and just aurg. What severs really need now, seriously this is going to not make anyone want to roll Horde, cause why roll horde now!? OH U SIDED WITH DRAGON KEELERS AND SLAVERS. I HAT U IMA ROLLING ALLY TO PWN U NUBS.

Blizz has just failed me more than when they broke BM.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:14 pm
by Vephriel
/shrug

I think it will be interesting. ;)

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:18 pm
by Ryai
Vephriel wrote:/shrug

I think it will be interesting. ;)
interesting would have been Garrosh just killing Cairne and showing his true colors as a Psychopathic nutjob or atleast nearing xenophobic.

But allying horde with the people who A: enslaved Alexstrazsa and made her hate the horde for so long? Not just orcs, the entire horde, up until recently? And B: who were absolutely destroying the Netherwing flight? AND. AND. AND supplying Deathwing with their eggs!?

If it turns out that lolz horde were secretly helping Deathwing, thanks to Garrosh allying us with the bleeding insane dragon, I'm either going to stop playing horde, or save up cash to reroll all my toons alliance.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:21 pm
by Saturo
This is just...
Suffice to say, I think Horde will start with a lower rep with Wyrmrest if this is true. I REALLY dislike that!

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:27 pm
by Palladiamorsdeus
I couldn't believe that either. Blackmaw? REALLY?

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:35 pm
by Azunara
...Hmmm. I think Azu MAY do more backgrounds. She's very proud of siding Netherwings and loves Azrenarku...

Though, I think it could be neat. Mounted (aerial?) combat; Alliance on gryphons, Horde on enslaved red/nether/blacks. Plus, I'm Alliance and I love the Wildhammers. I wish Gryphon Rider was a class. >.>


But yes, that's just stupid. I don't approve. At all. And I'm an ALLIANCE player.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:51 pm
by Vephriel
Hmm, yeah...I dunno, this just isn't affecting me at all. I'm looking forward to seeing what plays out.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:52 pm
by Nevar
^ This is shameful - BAD GARROSH.. KILL HIM!!!!

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:56 pm
by Azunara
Nevar wrote:^ This is shameful - BAD GARROSH.. KILL HIM!!!!

The For the Alliance! achievement may have become a million times better. :3

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:01 pm
by Nevar
Azunara wrote:
Nevar wrote:^ This is shameful - BAD GARROSH.. KILL HIM!!!!

The For the Alliance! achievement may have become a million times better. :3

^ This

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:06 pm
by Lilandre
Imma wait till i hear the full story on the bg before I make decisions.

Perhaps the dragonmaw orcs are turning good/less evil

/shrug

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:08 pm
by Ryai
Saturo wrote:This is just...
Suffice to say, I think Horde will start with a lower rep with Wyrmrest if this is true. I REALLY dislike that!
I wouldn't doubt it. Mean Belves and Forsaken start out screwed over for rep with their OWN SIDE FACTIONS.


and no offense to alliance but they're all a merry pot of popurri

And Lilandre it doesn't really matter. It's still basically the same people who enslaved dragons/worked for Deathwing. And various other goodies. They also were attacking alliance. And just it's just Blizzard hitting Horde with the nerfbat of Lets make you guys the evil ones KK. Mean reading over several threads alot of alliance players were basically telling the horde who were complaining about this to stfu and bend over/take it.

The sad fact of the matter is this will now OUT SHINE ANY evil act Alliance npcs/lore has ever had, done, or will do.

Because Garrosh saddled us up with dragon slavers.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:27 pm
by Kayb
oh my god... its bad enough we're getting garrosh fulltime, but this...

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:30 pm
by Aleu
...Can I set myself to hostile and kill them?

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:46 pm
by Skyshot
*M. Night Shyamalan suddenly bursts into the room* What a twist!
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE)



Seriously though I would stick around as horde. Yeah it does suck but I am pretty interested in this turn of events.
Besides.. I hear the dark side has some wicked awesome cookies. ;D

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:39 pm
by Dulanie
Maybe Garrosh will be a raid boss we can kill after Deathwing goes down.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:52 pm
by Sarayana
Honestly? It sounds to me like Blizz is going more in the direction of Alliance being "good" and Horde being "evil" in a more traditional sense. I used quotation marks because the idea of either being clear-cut good or evil is laughable - yet the sense I get is that the horde, with Garrosh is supposed to show a more brutal side of the Horde.

From a business perspective, I'd wager it makes good sense. I'd assume people don't want to play differently skinned versions of the same exact thing, and most MMOs have an "evil" faction... Perhaps Blizz has been studying its players? *shrug*

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:58 pm
by Nick
GARROSH, YOU WHORE.
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STOP MAKING THE HORDE LOOK BAD.
/rage

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:36 pm
by Ryai
Sarayana wrote:Honestly? It sounds to me like Blizz is going more in the direction of Alliance being "good" and Horde being "evil" in a more traditional sense. I used quotation marks because the idea of either being clear-cut good or evil is laughable - yet the sense I get is that the horde, with Garrosh is supposed to show a more brutal side of the Horde.
It's not brutal so much as it is traitorous, backstabbing, cruel, stupid, xenophobic, racist and extremely paranoid and arrogant, selfish and well yeah.

This pretty much is clear cutting Horde as Evil and Alliance as Good because Alliance are allying themselves with the victims of not only the Dark Iron Dwarves, but probably of the Dragonmaws too. While Garrosh is having us side with the Dragonmaw.. and you can get the picture.

There's nothing traditional here Sarayana, there's just cliche. I had nothing against horde being seen as grey with a side of black for their normal standings. I mean I would defend them from some of what Palla said but on most cases it felt like horde were mostly misunderstood. Dark but not entirely evil.

It's what drew me to horde and kept me horde; not just because I could play a cow or an elf or an orc. But I could be something other than a goody two shoes, but I wasn't squeaky clean as one, NOR Darth Vader evil.

I mean in all the games I play, you're either a goody two shoes, or you're evil as sin, there's rarely ever a grey ground or rarely ever anything more to the conflict.

But I mean WoW felt good to me cause cause not all the crap I did was evil.

This is just kinda a spit in the face for me, after killing dragonmaw on my dorf hunter, raising rep for my Tauren and Belf with Netherwing to borrow their wings. I mean it's bad enough we're getting Garrosh.

But now we have to deal with the insane halfwit?

This isn't just evil this is insanity imo.

I mean I had to put up with the whining wanna be war hero in the Tundra. Saurfang was the one who had my back, not Garrosh. And now I have to put up with him not only killing one of my two fave horde leaders, but riding the horde into the ground because Blizz wants a clear cut evil/good side?

As I said servers are already unbalanced enough as it is most of the time between ally and horde, do they really think this will draw in the good players for horde? I doubt it. Look what horde mostly got when they gave us blood elves. Whining babies who couldn't even get a pally to lv 30 most of the time. I mean I know there were side hoppers before this but Belves saw the greatest influx.

I mean this feels like everyone is going to flock away from the horde to either A: kill Garrosh B: kill horde or C: Be heroes and kill horde. I mean seriously, I know Warcraft isn't supposed to be Peacecraft, but painting horde in a bad light like this, in such a way, is leaving me unsatisfied.
From a business perspective, I'd wager it makes good sense. I'd assume people don't want to play differently skinned versions of the same exact thing, and most MMOs have an "evil" faction... Perhaps Blizz has been studying its players? *shrug*
Isn't that a bit contradictory? Because making Warcraft just like other MMO's and having an evil faction, is doing the same as differently skinned versions of the exact same thing. We already usually have evil factions, quite a few to be honest. Old gods, crazy Titans, rogue dragons, rogue flights, demons, warlocks, crazy rogues, crazy trolls, crazy humans, crazy ogres, gronns, dragons, more dragons, kobolds, gnolls, centaurs, undead, crazy forsaken, undead insectoids, living insectoids.. cracked up belves... we really aren't lacking for hard core evil or things to hate.

There's also the fact that this is going to bork world PVP and most things over even more because as I said it feels like it's going to drive people away from the horde side, or draw more people to the ally side for the most part- outside of people who think 'lol evil' and all that.

Re: Garrosh MAKES FAIL FAIL EVEN MORE THAN A FAILBOAT OF FAI

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:41 pm
by Nevar
And to think it could all be avoided if Garrosh wasnt such a douche.../readies arrow aimed at his head - I'll let it go..want me too?You cant kill him cause your mainly horde..but I'm an alli.../cough =D