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Upper Blackrock Spire Defeat General Drakkisath. 10 points.

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I can see why LBRS might be done or separated from UBRS, but to see UBRS get redone when it is already pretty straight-forward is kind of annoying. :S

Lycanthrope wrote:I can see why LBRS might be done or separated from UBRS, but to see UBRS get redone when it is already pretty straight-forward is kind of annoying. :S

I wish All of blackrock would get redone. ><;

I do wonder if the chromatic chimaera will be a drop from there, as a thematic reference to Gyth in LBRS.

Hm...maybe!

Wain wrote:I do wonder if the chromatic chimaera will be a drop from there, as a thematic reference to Gyth in LBRS.

By George, I think she's got it!

Wain wrote:I do wonder if the chromatic chimaera will be a drop from there, as a thematic reference to Gyth in LBRS.

You mean chromatic rylak, right.

pop wrote:

Wain wrote:I do wonder if the chromatic chimaera will be a drop from there, as a thematic reference to Gyth in LBRS.

You mean chromatic rylak, right.

Aubergine / eggplant.

Junrei wrote:

Lycanthrope wrote:I can see why LBRS might be done or separated from UBRS, but to see UBRS get redone when it is already pretty straight-forward is kind of annoying. :S

I wish All of blackrock would get redone. ><;

I dunno about BRD being redone. I LOVE that instance! It was the most open dungeon besides BRS at the time. Still is (in all honesty) today. Most dungeons have become 10-15min "LOLOLOL" trips with 4 other random players. I'd like to see some more pathing and structure be put into dungeons. Leave the quick trips for Scenarios.

Lycanthrope wrote:

Junrei wrote:

Lycanthrope wrote:I can see why LBRS might be done or separated from UBRS, but to see UBRS get redone when it is already pretty straight-forward is kind of annoying. :S

I wish All of blackrock would get redone. ><;

I dunno about BRD being redone. I LOVE that instance! It was the most open dungeon besides BRS at the time. Still is (in all honesty) today. Most dungeons have become 10-15min "LOLOLOL" trips with 4 other random players. I'd like to see some more pathing and structure be put into dungeons. Leave the quick trips for Scenarios.

I hate it. It's way too big and I refuse to do dungeons during the lvl 50 bracket.

Lycanthrope wrote:

Junrei wrote:

Lycanthrope wrote:I can see why LBRS might be done or separated from UBRS, but to see UBRS get redone when it is already pretty straight-forward is kind of annoying. :S

I wish All of blackrock would get redone. ><;

I dunno about BRD being redone. I LOVE that instance! It was the most open dungeon besides BRS at the time. Still is (in all honesty) today. Most dungeons have become 10-15min "LOLOLOL" trips with 4 other random players. I'd like to see some more pathing and structure be put into dungeons. Leave the quick trips for Scenarios.

I almost love it. I love how it's long and in depth and has all sorts of things to do- it's really fun to do with a good group!

...But, the problem is, it's fun to do maybe three times. And to get out of that level bracket you end up doing it a lot more times than that.

If you leveled up more out of it, then I'd be fine with it, but spending over an hour in the same dungeon and not even leveling up is... ew.

BRD would be fine if the LFD version had a locked door that you couldn't open between the two halves, and also if the quests and where the "end" of the LFD version were weren't in two completely different directions (and if you could do the quests in the second half without having done the first half, because inevitably getting that chain done is a huuuge pain in the butt).

Basically, BRD on its own is fine, even if my guild leader has nightmares about dragging my level 45 priest through it this one time in classic. BRD in the dungeon finder is a nightmare and means that even my pure healers or tanks end up questing for about seven levels because it gets to a point where I can't deal with being the dungeon guide for every group I join :(

Xella wrote:BRD would be fine if the LFD version had a locked door that you couldn't open between the two halves, and also if the quests and where the "end" of the LFD version were weren't in two completely different directions (and if you could do the quests in the second half without having done the first half, because inevitably getting that chain done is a huuuge pain in the butt).

Basically, BRD on its own is fine, even if my guild leader has nightmares about dragging my level 45 priest through it this one time in classic. BRD in the dungeon finder is a nightmare and means that even my pure healers or tanks end up questing for about seven levels because it gets to a point where I can't deal with being the dungeon guide for every group I join

^Thiiiis. Yes. Thank you. LFD is a nightmare and you never know what side you're on for sure cause it's very vague and the quests are for both sides. Plus you get groups that wanna do the WHOLE thing.

The second half groups (the ones where the end of the instance is to kill the emperor) actually start at the mole machine just past the bar now, so there's SLIGHTLY less confusion on that point (same with lbrs and ubrs: ubrs groups start up by the door into UBRS proper, while LBRS groups start at the zone-in point if you weren't queueing LFD). Honestly, that's just made first half groups even worse though, because half of them still beeline straight to the boss that ends the queue, and the other half go to do the other quests and end up going through the entire instance because there's no endpoint in that direction and the boss that ends it is on the other side of the instance.

And forget doing the Heart of the Mountain quest; I've only ever gotten enough keys on group members paying attention to chat twice this entire expansion (and I'm an altaholic) and asdjfagahreagjsdargh BRD :(

I think I ran LBRS the most of any classic dungeon. Nearly always in a stealth group. Tricky things like that you can't do in a LFD group. Perhaps if they had 'hard modes' for bosses that awarded slightly better gear (or unique skins on the weapon models), but required coordination. Or even if they had new dungeons coming out with patches. That's the one thing MoP didn't deliver on at all. Dungeons. LFR is a poor substitute for the dungeon experience.

Xella wrote:The second half groups (the ones where the end of the instance is to kill the emperor) actually start at the mole machine just past the bar now, so there's SLIGHTLY less confusion on that point (same with lbrs and ubrs: ubrs groups start up by the door into UBRS proper, while LBRS groups start at the zone-in point if you weren't queueing LFD). Honestly, that's just made first half groups even worse though, because half of them still beeline straight to the boss that ends the queue, and the other half go to do the other quests and end up going through the entire instance because there's no endpoint in that direction and the boss that ends it is on the other side of the instance.

And forget doing the Heart of the Mountain quest; I've only ever gotten enough keys on group members paying attention to chat twice this entire expansion (and I'm an altaholic) and asdjfagahreagjsdargh BRD

I never pick up the HotM quest. Forget it. It'll never be done.

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy...? (New) Assist Leeroy Jenkins in recovering his Devout Shoulders in Upper Blackrock Spire on Heroic difficulty. 10 points.

Shinryu Masaki wrote:

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy...? (New) Assist Leeroy Jenkins in recovering his Devout Shoulders in Upper Blackrock Spire on Heroic difficulty. 10 points.

Pretty much this.

URBS and LBRS are totally logical and completeable compared to BRD.. let's put 10 levels of quests in one dungeon.. >.<