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Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:18 am
by Adam-Savage
I keep seeing ppl being on private servers and I wonder if this is allowed. Surely blizz doesn't like this. Your basically stealing there coding to make a server..

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:51 am
by cowmuflage
I don't know about them really don't they ahev to pay blizz or somesuch?

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:08 am
by Teigan
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Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:11 am
by Adam-Savage
Teigan wrote:I thought they were against Blizz policy too. A friend of mine who no longer plays used to play on one, so I tried her's once. Yeah, sure I had 300,000 gold and a phoenix mount and a instant level 80...but..honestly it sucked. I didn't have to earn any of it. Instead of being fun, it was boring. Rather awful, really.
Yah it's kinda like the ptr. What do you do ? Make money ? Go mine ? Pointless to earn gold on a ptr really. You get bored there pretty quick. I would fly around to places I couldn't but I'm afraid of getting in trouble with blizz for doing so.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:11 am
by Vephriel
No, private servers are considered a breach of the End-User License Agreement. If they're based on WoW code Blizzard can even take legal action against them. In some cases users have had their official accounts banned.

/shrug

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:14 am
by Adam-Savage
Vephriel wrote:No, private servers are considered a breach of the End-User License Agreement. If they're based on WoW code Blizzard can even take legal action against them. In some cases users have had their official accounts banned.

/shrug
Yes to make one. But how about playing on one that someone else made.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:15 am
by cowmuflage
I'm sure that too is a breach as you are chooseing to play basicly a pirated vertion of the game.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:15 am
by Vephriel
"Blizzard has not yet banned any users who connect to these servers, but in some cases, the users of private servers no longer have official server accounts. "

It's going to be frowned upon no matter what. It's your risk.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:18 am
by Adam-Savage
Vephriel wrote:"Blizzard has not yet banned any users who connect to these servers, but in some cases, the users of private servers no longer have official server accounts. "

It's going to be frowned upon no matter what. It's your risk.
Isn't that the same as banning them ? You got all your toons but your stuck playing on private servers. I'm not a big risk taker either way. If I where to do it I would do it on a safe computer that I've never logged in to my real account and on a different IP. However that's alot of hassle and I don't think it's worth it.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:29 am
by Vephriel
I really don't know what you're looking for in this thread. If it's some sort of reassurance for breaking the terms of agreement you won't find it here. Risk whatever you do or don't want to. There really isn't a grey area here.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:37 am
by Adam-Savage
Vephriel wrote:I really don't know what you're looking for in this thread. If it's some sort of reassurance for breaking the terms of agreement you won't find it here. Risk whatever you do or don't want to. There really isn't a grey area here.
I thought I was clear ? I'm pretty sure I said It wasn't worth the risk. I was already iffy about it and after reading the post in here I made my mind up that I wouldn't."I'm not big risk taker" and " I don't think it's worth the hassle" Sounded like like I was saying I wasn't gonna do it. *shurgs*

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:52 am
by Mania
A lot of players don't really know what a private server is or whether playing on one is allowed. Having a clear answer is probably useful. So here you go:

No, private servers are not allowed. Running one most certainly breaks the Terms of Use (and could get you sued). But even just playing on one breaks the Terms of Use -- specifically clause 2F, although you could make a case for clauses 2D and 2E as well.

Now if you see someone asking here you can point them at this thread. ;)

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:44 pm
by Adam-Savage
Mania wrote:A lot of players don't really know what a private server is or whether playing on one is allowed. Having a clear answer is probably useful. So here you go:

No, private servers are not allowed. Running one most certainly breaks the Terms of Use (and could get you sued). But even just playing on one breaks the Terms of Use -- specifically clause 2F, although you could make a case for clauses 2D and 2E as well.

Now if you see someone asking here you can point them at this thread. ;)
Couldn't of asked for a better response. Clear and right to the point. I think if I gotten very clear answer then this thread would of been smaller. On the flip side it boosted my post count. :lol:

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:16 pm
by Chrizesu
Oh, and private realms of beta can get you in a lot of trouble. Those are the ones that people normally get sued over.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:58 pm
by Sarayana
AdamSavage wrote:Couldn't of asked for a better response. Clear and right to the point. I think if I gotten very clear answer then this thread would of been smaller.
I don't understand what about Veph's initial answer wasn't "clear and right to the point."
Vephriel wrote:No, private servers are considered a breach of the End-User License Agreement. If they're based on WoW code Blizzard can even take legal action against them. In some cases users have had their official accounts banned.
Either way, private realms are NOT worth the risk IMO. Furthermore, private realms are often riddles with bugs and lag issues and they're usually a few patches behind the main game. Of course nobody will ban you for game breaking hacks like underground mining, so if that's your thing I'm sure the private realms are a haven. *shrug* Personally I like Blizz's game the way it is.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:19 pm
by Gala
yeah, i really dont see what wasnt clear about Veph's original post.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:05 pm
by Adam-Savage
I thought Mania's was more direct really.. Apparently she did as well. It didn't leave any room for other questions.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:16 pm
by Gala
Vephriel wrote:No, private servers are considered a breach of the End-User License Agreement. If they're based on WoW code Blizzard can even take legal action against them. In some cases users have had their official accounts banned.

/shrug
Mania wrote:

No, private servers are not allowed. Running one most certainly breaks the Terms of Use (and could get you sued). But even just playing on one breaks the Terms of Use -- specifically clause 2F, although you could make a case for clauses 2D and 2E as well.

really?

REALLY?

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:21 pm
by Razzy
Hypersensitivity.

It will get us nowhere.

Re: Private Servers

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:37 pm
by Adam-Savage
Galadrael wrote:
Vephriel wrote:No, private servers are considered a breach of the End-User License Agreement. If they're based on WoW code Blizzard can even take legal action against them. In some cases users have had their official accounts banned.

/shrug
Mania wrote:

No, private servers are not allowed. Running one most certainly breaks the Terms of Use (and could get you sued). But even just playing on one breaks the Terms of Use -- specifically clause 2F, although you could make a case for clauses 2D and 2E as well.

really?

REALLY?

Foreally! Before this turns into a flame war I will simply say I liked mania's reply as it was more direct and left no room for what if all in one post. Vep's was ok but still kinda left room for more what if. This is why I asked more questions. I could say that my reply to Vep was pretty clear but she didn't seem to think so and replied with her lovely reply that she posted. So yah that's all I'm gonna say as I'm trying to avoid this turning into something it does not need to. :roll: :D :headbang: