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While I disliked my state for doing what they did - I must say I still live here so do not go calling Ohio'n's stupid or anything but this is a much needed and final change that overjoys me.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/day ... tArticle=y

That is to say that every dog not just pit bulls who are deemed viscious by actions not by breed will have the same treatment. The breed is not what makes the dog viscious its most times the owner HOWEVER is some small cases some dogs are simply mean like people. This bill drops the bit bull from the definition of viscious dog and makes all viscious dogs treated equally - muzzle restraints in public places etc. It is a much needed change though since I for one believe that every dog can have the temperment to be "viscious". In other words as the basic meaning would be the defining would be dog by dog and not by breed since it is recognized that dogs like people all have different personalities no pit bull will be defined viscious unless it has proven itself as such.

I think that's a very good Idea, as someone who has a European Boxer, I know what it's like, people freak out 'OH! It's a Pit Bull/Bull Dog, he needs to be muzzled', which is just BS, and Pit Bulls aren't the nasty ones, It is the owner b/c most are bread to be 'tough'. I also dislike people who think all Pit Bulls/ Bull Dogs are mean and nasty because I know a lot of very kind lovable ones.

Gimlion wrote:I think that's a very good Idea, as someone who has a European Boxer, I know what it's like, people freak out 'OH! It's a Pit Bull/Bull Dog, he needs to be muzzled', which is just BS, and Pit Bulls aren't the nasty ones, It is the owner b/c most are bread to be 'tough'. I also dislike people who think all Pit Bulls/ Bull Dogs are mean and nasty because I know a lot of very kind lovable ones.

Aint that the truth my best friend has two with her Cujo and Daisy May Clampit Cujo's name dosent fit him at all hes a big baby and Daisy May well shes a spitfire of energy Its all about how ya raise them!

That was really a great news for everyone. Pit Bull has positive and negative traits in their temperament. Their breed history has led to a dog unlike any other in the history of purebred dogs. These are actually fearless dogs.

Feed not the troll, people.

Thats great news, I heard they were trying to pass that bill but I didn't know if they would. I personaly think all dogs that bite and cause a serious injury should be put down. Localy a Labrador bit a chunk out of a childs arm, the owners dog the dog back, it bit another kid, they got it back. It killed a 4 year old and they finaly put it down. I've seen pit bulls be killed just for grolwing or barking.

Saturo wrote:Feed not the troll, people.

I do not call it trolling - I call it being informative on something I care highly about. Now if I had taken a different approach it may have been considered trolling however this is not trolling. I simply decided to share a piece of good news. I would however say something to an uneducated comment as I cannot stand things like that.

I didn't mean you, Nevar.

Saturo wrote:I didn't mean you, Nevar.

Oh! okies sorry took it like it was me

Actually, I like pit bulls. Knew a gal' that owned one. Friendliest dog I've ever met. It was put down when they moved into a more densely populated area, since "fight-dogs" were'nt allowed there. D:

They didn't get to object.

Saturo wrote:Actually, I like pit bulls. Knew a gal' that owned one. Friendliest dog I've ever met. It was put down when they moved into a more densely populated area, since "fight-dogs" were'nt allowed there. D:

They didn't get to object.

Shameful - just shameful R.I.P poor puppy...

This is wonderful!

I live in London, I'm not sure if word's spread to America, but we have a lot of problem with viscious dogs, illegal fights, breeding etc. Everytime I see something on the news about it, you can see what these poor dogs have been reduced to because of their inconsiderate owners. I'm not completely sure of the situation at the moment, but I think they've made a long list of breeds that have been considered 'dangerous', which is completely unfair. =s

Dogs are like people, they have that primal instinct, and they can be raised to be viscious, but they can be raised to be bundles of love and affection. My uncle has a pitbull, and he's the loveliest, friendliest dog I've ever met! =)

The other lovely thing about bad breeding and bad breeders is the dogs can literally be made insane. The whole lineage just, bred into insanity from so much and such heavy inbreeding and bad blood.

The real humor in this? Some guy who absolutely detested pitbulls and the like claimed this was why 2 people got attacked by their OWN DOGS and went on to say pitbulls are bad. So ofc when I pulled it up and said if a Pit can be bred into madness, wouldn't any dog? Doesn't that mean ANY DOG WOULD HAVE ATTACKED THEM? Ofc he stfu'd or tried to change the subject. No wait, he tried to change the subject and attack me! What a lovely person!

Also it's less about Pit's being a vicious breed, but more the fact Pit's are one of the few dogs if I remember right, that are dangerous if they ever get a taste for blood. And this is true really for any dog, but it depends on the dog and breed. A good example would be this; Wolfhounds are loyal and loving creatures. And usually when raised around small animals and socialized right, they are as safe around small pets as big pets. Cats, dogs, anything for the most part. Of course you still need to watch them..

I heard of one woman who lets her wolfhounds run wild on her land basically. She lets them chase down and EAT rabbits.

She then complains and wonders why one of her hounds is such a vicious, snarling mess to anything not human nor wolfhound

Ryai wrote:
Also it's less about Pit's being a vicious breed, but more the fact Pit's are one of the few dogs if I remember right, that are dangerous if they ever get a taste for blood. And this is true really for any dog, but it depends on the dog and breed.

This is false, there is no such thing as the "taste of blood" trait. Dogs who have bitten or even mauled have been rehabilitated into stable dogs, example: Micheal Vicks pits, they were taken from him for dog fighting and all had obviously been in a fight before, so they have tasted blood.
These dogs were rehabilited and all the were adopted passed the Canine Good Citizen test which requires them be calm and welcoming to other dogs.
Bred to insanity is also false, they are simply bred with less stable temperments. A properly bred pit bull is a very stable dog, who is very friendly to people and can be good with other dogs, but can also have problems with them.

Nevar wrote:While I disliked my state for doing what they did - I must say I still live here so do not go calling Ohio'n's stupid or anything but this is a much needed and final change that overjoys me.

Oh, I won't call people from Ohio stupid... I don't want to insult myself But yeah, I kinda like the law... althouhg the family has had a bit of mixed feelings for it... Not that it really bothers us... Our 40lb pug will never attack a human... his mouth is too small...

Bred to insanity is also false, they are simply bred with less stable temperments. A properly bred pit bull is a very stable dog, who is very friendly to people and can be good with other dogs, but can also have problems with them.

Um you're kinda also proving my point. 'Bred to insanity' is basically people poorly breeding a dog, not caring about temperment or stability of the mental health of the dog, I'm talking about the people who would be black market breeders for fighting dogs or generally worse than a puppymill because they don't want 'nice friendly dogs'. Basically like the fighting bulls Spain has. You could deem the creatures 'near insane' for the amount of rage they have.

This is false, there is no such thing as the "taste of blood" trait. Dogs who have bitten or even mauled have been rehabilitated into stable dogs, example: Micheal Vicks pits, they were taken from him for dog fighting and all had obviously been in a fight before, so they have tasted blood.

Not so- as not all dogs can be rehabilitized and not all dogs are ever safe again around pets. As I said it depends on the DOG as well as the breed :/ I'm not saying 'once they get a taste for blood all dogs of xx breed go insane for it', but alot are still dangerous, even after being rehabilitated like this- saw a special and while one pit was perfectly sane and nice around people, around other dogs? not so much.

zedxrgal wrote:Wolfhounds are hunting dogs. So what those dogs are doing is hunting and protecting. They're being raised like wild dogs which is exactly how they're acting. ANY dog breed can do this even a 5 lb chihuahua.

No you don't understand what I'm saying. And I didn't clarify it, she doesn't let them run wild as in 'run like wild dogs', she lets them run wild as in like you would let a dog run wild in the backyard, with no supervision. Meaning they hunt small game. So she posted how this one wolfhound who was so sweet and loving, suddenly turned into this dangerous animal to anything non wolfhound or human, after it got a taste of blood. That's what I meant :/

I've come into contact with and worked with wolf hybrids who are more stable then some chuhuahuas are. As a matter of fact there are ZERO regulations on hybrids usually. The hybrids are also not normally fed dog food. they're fed a mix of raw meat and dog food. So wouldn't that mean they'd become blood thirsty and start mauling their keepers? Domestic dogs are often fed the same thing. Wouldn't that mean the same for them?

Again you're not understanding the point. It's less RAW FOOD more, taste of blood via ATTACKING something. IE ATTACKING something and getting the thrill/taste for it, not just the blood. but it's easier to coin the term Getting a taste of blood as usually once that happens most dogs do warp. Mean I even had a Borzoi that warped a bit once he did, he never bit really, then once he bit me he seemed to like continuing to be 'rough' and get 'rougher' until we finally had to just rehome him [this ontop of the teasing he received from nieghborhood kids too]



and off topic I really don't support wolf hybrids, as they are usually what starts the 'wolf hate', they have no fear for man usually, which again can lead to attacks, and they can attack normal pets.

We should have vicious human restrictions.

Again, if this dog ran "Wild" in her backyard she probaly did not socialize it, Wolfhounds are a independant breed because of their hunting history and if you want them to be social you must work frequantly with them and socialize them a ton from a young age.

Ryai wrote:

No you don't understand what I'm saying. And I didn't clarify it, she doesn't let them run wild as in 'run like wild dogs', she lets them run wild as in like you would let a dog run wild in the backyard, with no supervision. Meaning they hunt small game. So she posted how this one wolfhound who was so sweet and loving, suddenly turned into this dangerous animal to anything non wolfhound or human, after it got a taste of blood. That's what I meant :/

Again very very false, killing small animals would not make a dog dangerous towards people, Human aggression, and animal/dog aggression are two totally different things.
The woman who posted this sounds very uneducated.
"taste of blood" is an urban myth, ask any professional trainer, I happen to work with two one went to Moorpark college were they work with exotics, she trained Cheetahs, Lions, and Apes then she got into dog training, she trained for a couple movies. Then they had to move for her husbands buisness and now she is training for a shelter. She also says this is a myth.