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Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:32 am
by Acherontia
So the Dire Wolves in MH are Tameable, but Friendly--like quite a few beasts out there. Is there no way to make them unfriendly, or make yourself unfriendly?
My first thought was that debuff at Mutanus in WC. How long does this last and exactly what does it do? I remember it making my guildmate red-named during a boost, and I killed him. Could that mean mobs are red to you too? If you got a summon to an in-progress MH where the wolves had JUST spawned (I'm fairly certain they have a living-timer), could you manage to tame one?
Any other way to become hostile? Diguises, quests, any random & obscure scripts like that?

Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:19 am
by Kastarakovski
*curses the fact she has full stables on both her 80's, otherwise she would SO be in MH looking for ways to tame the ghostly puppy*
*Also curses the fact MH is one instance nobody on Saurfang wants to do anymore*
*Then curses the fact Blizzard can't make the extended stables come out fast enough*
...
I'm doing a LOT of cursing lately >_>;
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:22 am
by Nelium
Wow..I will so look into this! Hmm, what to try first?
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:23 am
by Golden
Hmm, I have the empty stable slot, but not a lot of people there to help me with my experiments. :(
But damn, if it's possible to tame these things. :D That's an awesome find, let's hope that there's a way to become hostile with them.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:24 am
by Congafury
this could be interesting;)
and /sigh at the fact blizzard tabbed them as tamable, sorta teasing hunters........
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:38 am
by Acherontia
Congafury wrote:
and /sigh at the fact blizzard tabbed them as tamable, sorta teasing hunters........
My thoughts exactly!!
To note, I'm fairly certain these wolves are...
* Spawned by the Horde Shamans at the Base Camp.
* Have a Living Time (undetermined length but -should- be enough for a fast tame).
* Require hostile action to prompt spawn.
During the entire event (several waves at the Horde camp) I only saw these spawned
once. This means they may only spawn once as an event, or they may require prompting via their Shaman summoners being beat upon. Not sure which.
To start with, quick, someone go run WC with a friend or two and let Mutanus go wild. It'd probably take hours to actually get the debuff to hit a level 73+, but at least then we could have an idea of whether you keep control of your actions & how long it lasts. May be best bringing a helpful lowbie who knows what's going on.
Edit: even if this DID work, getting the debuff at the same time your raid (which should have a summon ready for your feign & accept) having the wolves spawn is extremely unlikely. Still worth a shot IMO, for the truly dedicated

Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:42 am
by Golden
Acherontia wrote:To start with, quick, someone go run WC with a friend or two and let Mutanus go wild. It'd probably take hours to actually get the debuff to hit a level 73+, but at least then we could have an idea of whether you keep control of your actions & how long it lasts. May be best bringing a helpful lowbie who knows what's going on.
Edit: even if this DID work, getting the debuff at the same time your raid (which should have a summon ready for your feign & accept) having the wolves spawn is extremely unlikely. Still worth a shot IMO, for the truly dedicated :P
I'm on it. *taker her priest over there to try it out*
Lowest level self-healing toon I have, go figure. ;)
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:29 am
by Dewclaw
Ok, I'm dumb. What's MH?
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:43 am
by Acherontia
Mount Hyjal

Sorry, I should have specified :O
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:53 am
by Dewclaw
Ah, I've never been there. No wonder I didn't recognize it.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:37 am
by Sonata
The charm from Mutanus lasts around 15 seconds atleast what I can say.
I don't know if the effect gets longer with more party members.
Went with Saf and we gave it a try. I could move but I was having a shiny moment and forgot to try CAN I do anything besides move.
EDIT: So any ideas for a longer debuff?
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:52 am
by Acherontia
I don't know. Everything I can think of is an actual MC effect; that's why I was hoping people could brainstorm and think of something that's slipping my mind.
As it stands, even if you timed it right with full haste gear & BL...
a. the load time for MH would probably be prohibitive and
b. I'm not sure it allows YOU to take action against OTHERS. Can anyone test this? Once I get done in ICC today I'll try and have a look but if anyone is already messing about in WC for science

Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:54 am
by Golden
I can't really think of any spells that would MC you but still allow you to use your skills.. Is there a way to transform into a hostile race (something like the TCG Ogre statue or furbolg staff) and keep that form even while casting? Maybe one of the forms happens to be hostile with the wolves. <.<
Or maybe the item (I guess it drops off Kael'thas..) that transforms the user into a Blood Elf?
Edit:
Orb of the Sin'dorei
Carved Ogre Idol
Dartol's Rod of Transformation
Orb of Deception
Iron Boot Flask
Frenzyheart Brew
Time-Lost Figurine
Super Simian Sphere
Savory Deviate Delight
Rituals of the New Moon
Dire Brew
Hm, more transformation items than I expected. XD Not all of those turn you into a humanoid, but worth a shot I suppose.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:58 am
by Saturo
Neither of those alter your standing with anything. They are strictly cosmetic.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:00 pm
by Golden
There MIGHT (big might :P) be a fluke that the wolves are hostile against something like that, even without a reason. The devs may not have thought that it would be such a big deal and left the wolves hostile to something completely random. Same thing with the original Ghost Wolves, they probably didn't expect hunters to be able to stack enough haste to finish the tame before the thing died, but alas, it was possible.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:09 pm
by Saturo
That's not how those buffs work, but by all means, check it out.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:33 pm
by Sarayana
One thing to keep in mind if you're going to try this is that the summoning message is open for 2 minutes. If you get the summon and then engage to get the debuff, you could click the accept the moment it hits you - but as you said, it might not be timed with the spawn.
Have you tried clicking yourself as hostile with the faction for Mount Hyjal? (I didn't really raid much in TBC so I don't know which one that would be...)
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:09 pm
by Slickrock
Too bad it's in an instance, you could at least let an ally hunter tame one if it wasn't...
Yeah, unless you can change your standing with the faction, likely not going to work. Too bad.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:11 pm
by Saturo
Most likely, those wolves aren't even in a faction. They might just be tagged as Friendly to all.
Re: Way To Become Hostile?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:15 pm
by Golden
Which would be a pretty horrible joke, seeing as they're the only ghostly wolves tagged as tameable at the moment. :( Everyone wants one, so no need to rub it in! ;__;