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Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:32 pm
by Redith
Has anyone ever found someone from your faction (Hunter or other) camping the same area as you, and you know its close to a pets spawn time and u tell him/her that it was just killed or captured so u can have a better chance?
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:35 pm
by Rhyela
No, because 1) I don't lie and 2) chances are that if they're in that area, they would probably know you're lying. Personally I don't think it's worth it. If you can't put in the time and all that into a rare and try to make it easier by lying to someone, you probably shouldn't have it. Rares take dedication, so suck it up and accept that other people want it, too.
That's my opinion, anyway.

Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:41 pm
by Teigan
No, I have never done that and I would not do that. If you are considering it, I would say don't. It's not ethical. Even if other people don't "play fair", keep your own integrity.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:51 pm
by Sarayana
I was going to write a long answer, but Rhyela and Teigan summed it up so well.

Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:23 pm
by Vephriel
Triple ditto ^
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:12 pm
by FuzzyDolly
Absolutely not. BTW, what realm are you on?
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:14 pm
by Redith
FuzzyDolly wrote:Absolutely not. BTW, what realm are you on?
None. Blizzard banned both my accounts because Im deployed overseas.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:37 pm
by Feath3r
It's never come up for me, so I haven't. Would I do it? No. Would I hold it against someone who did? No.
I understand, especially after reading posts here, how often Hunters get screwed out of pets for various reasons (a lot of which are malicious player related) and I wouldn't hold it against them to be desperate enough to try and get this pet any way they can.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:59 pm
by Fael
Guh that's not fair... Had a friend deployed to Korea and he still managed to use his account.
I also would never do it since it would tick me off if someone managed to trick me. As it is I tend to ignore those kinds of shouts or comments when I see them unless it's along the lines of "Hey it spawned over here!!" :p
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:01 pm
by Redith
Fael wrote:Guh that's not fair... Had a friend deployed to Korea and he still managed to use his account.
Yha well he went when there wasnt a rash of hacks so no things are worse. Im not snapping at you FYI. Im just still annoyed about it
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:03 pm
by Nelium
I have, but only once.
I had a good reason though. This hunter was camping in the same places as I was, so I whisper them with a hello and any luck today, just trying to find something to do while I camped. It turned out they were camping Loque to kill him. I was a little upset, but knew that some people just don't care about taming rares. So I told them goodluck and all. I find King Krush a few hours later and during the tame the same hunter comes down and kills him right there, for no reason! The hunter then asked if I had seen loque lately... after some deep breaths I told them that he had spawned about an hour ago and they logged out. I wanted to feel bad for lying to them but killing Krush was just too much especially when they did not need the achievement.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:07 pm
by Redith
Nelium wrote:I have, but only once.
I had a good reason though. This hunter was camping in the same places as I was, so I whisper them with a hello and any luck today, just trying to find something to do while I camped. It turned out they were camping Loque to kill him. I was a little upset, but knew that some people just don't care about taming rares. So I told them goodluck and all. I find King Krush a few hours later and during the tame the same hunter comes down and kills him right there, for no reason! The hunter then asked if I had seen loque lately... after some deep breaths I told them that he had spawned about an hour ago and they logged out. I wanted to feel bad for lying to them but killing Krush was just too much especially when they did not need the achievement.
Eh you shouldnt. You made some hunter probably very happy to find and get loque
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:07 pm
by Bulletdance
Nah,I have an 80 on each side. I just switch an threaten to harm them if they get there after me. But if I see someone already there I let em have em and try again later.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:20 pm
by Fael
Redith wrote:Fael wrote:Guh that's not fair... Had a friend deployed to Korea and he still managed to use his account.
Yha well he went when there wasnt a rash of hacks so no things are worse. Im not snapping at you FYI. Im just still annoyed about it
No harm done, I'd be extremely annoyed too. Sometimes if you talk to them about the ban and explain things you can get your account back... If you haven't tried at all it may be worth a shot? you could explain that you didn't expect playing YOUR account overseas would get you banned.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:23 pm
by Fael
Redith wrote:Nelium wrote:I have, but only once.
I had a good reason though. This hunter was camping in the same places as I was, so I whisper them with a hello and any luck today, just trying to find something to do while I camped. It turned out they were camping Loque to kill him. I was a little upset, but knew that some people just don't care about taming rares. So I told them goodluck and all. I find King Krush a few hours later and during the tame the same hunter comes down and kills him right there, for no reason! The hunter then asked if I had seen loque lately... after some deep breaths I told them that he had spawned about an hour ago and they logged out. I wanted to feel bad for lying to them but killing Krush was just too much especially when they did not need the achievement.
Eh you shouldnt. You made some hunter probably very happy to find and get loque
Nah you didn't do wrong. I would have gone a step further and returned the favor myself if I saw them taming Loque. >:| Don't feel bad if you end up taming it before they do because they logged out. :p
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:32 am
by Allua
I never have, but I was taken for a liar once
Once I reached lvl 77 (that was about 1-2 months into expansion) I dedicated myself to taming Loque. I spent two weeks doing nothing but circling the zone or camping before I got him. On the day of my tame I was perching on the northern cliff by the eagles in shadowmeld. (I decided to camp there as the day before I saw Loque in the wild for the first time - being tamed by another hunter at that very spot). Staying hidden, I saw several other hunters coming and going, doing their loops. Long story short, a yellow dot appears on the screen and I jump and set a trap, my hands shaking, even before the actual beast pops up. Arcane shot, his graceful leap at me, trapped! - start tame, loooong 20 seconds - and he is mine!!!
I decided to be nice and tell the other hunters in the zone that I tamed him so that they would know the place and time of the spawn. To my surprise, the answer I got was not "congratz" and "thank you", but "liar! I've been in that spot less than a minute ago and there was no spawn there!". Truly, I saw that hunter pass over some 10-15 seconds before Loque spawned. I welcomed them to come and see me with my kitty, still unnamed and lvl 76, and only then they believed.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:42 am
by Ryai
Nelium wrote:I have, but only once.
I had a good reason though. This hunter was camping in the same places as I was, so I whisper them with a hello and any luck today, just trying to find something to do while I camped. It turned out they were camping Loque to kill him. I was a little upset, but knew that some people just don't care about taming rares. So I told them goodluck and all. I find King Krush a few hours later and during the tame the same hunter comes down and kills him right there, for no reason! The hunter then asked if I had seen loque lately... after some deep breaths I told them that he had spawned about an hour ago and they logged out. I wanted to feel bad for lying to them but killing Krush was just too much especially when they did not need the achievement.
Tbh I wouldn't have just said that, I'd have done a long winded rant, and then if he was in a guild, taken it to a guild officer and pretty much try and get him blacklisted.
Why?
Because that's griefing, plain and simple.
And at anyrate don't feel bad, the asshole deserved it because he killed a mob that was clearly tagged by someone else :/
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:57 am
by Sarayana
I wouldn't call it griefing. That other hunter did nothing except not trust Allua. Probably he has had bad experiences with others in the Basin. (I recall those early Loque hunting days, SB was overrun with hunters, all out to get him...) I can't really blame him for not trusting another hunter. I think Allua took the perfect approach, offering to show him off as level 76 and unnamed. It helped the other hunters believe her and time his respawn.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:16 am
by Sasrei
Nelium wrote:I have, but only once.
I had a good reason though. This hunter was camping in the same places as I was, so I whisper them with a hello and any luck today, just trying to find something to do while I camped. It turned out they were camping Loque to kill him. I was a little upset, but knew that some people just don't care about taming rares. So I told them goodluck and all. I find King Krush a few hours later and during the tame the same hunter comes down and kills him right there, for no reason! The hunter then asked if I had seen loque lately... after some deep breaths I told them that he had spawned about an hour ago and they logged out. I wanted to feel bad for lying to them but killing Krush was just too much especially when they did not need the achievement.
Personally I wouldnt have been so nice about it. I really really hate people who know you are wanting to tame something and yet the swoop down and kill them and then have the nerve to ask you about killing something else you want to tame?! I would have talked with one of his guild officers for sure. Heck when my guildie keeps saying he kills King krush. I am quick to yell at him lol. The only time I will ever kill Aotona and King Krush for that stupid acheievement is if noone else wants them. Which I really have yet to find someone who doesnt
Personally now that my stables are complete.. I am at a loss. Ive never not hunted for a rare before.. proof of that is that I am still doing rounds for rares and just whsipering my hunter friends when one spawns and I know someone wants them ^.^ I guess I should level my 61 hunter.
I actually think it was griefing for people to kill them for no reason is wrong. On my server there is always this one guy who usually sells the gear that drops from rares around there. And it ticks me off lol. Obviously he doesnt need it for the acheivement. He's killed gondria, Aotona, Loque, King Krush and Skoll. Really.. what point is it to do that.. Id yell at him but his name has wierd characters in it lol.
Re: Liar Liar
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:37 pm
by Ryai
Sarayana wrote:I wouldn't call it griefing. That other hunter did nothing except not trust Allua. Probably he has had bad experiences with others in the Basin. (I recall those early Loque hunting days, SB was overrun with hunters, all out to get him...) I can't really blame him for not trusting another hunter. I think Allua took the perfect approach, offering to show him off as level 76 and unnamed. It helped the other hunters believe her and time his respawn.
I wasn't quoting Allua's post, was calling the other hunter who killed Krush mid tame, the griefer :c