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Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:49 pm
by Jatbirkkal
So forgive me if this was already talked about, I didn't see anything on it even though I did some looking. Do we have any idea what's up with these? I noticed they're not listed on the site as existing at all lol, even just as Untameable Models or something.

Essentially they're crystal scorpids like the Amber one, but they're in different shades; red, green, and blue I saw. They're trash mobs in the raid, leading up to the first boss, Skorpyron. I was in LFR so I didn't get the chance to really look them over myself, dunno if they're even listed as Beasts, and was just looking to see if there was any information or speculation on them at all thus far.

So yeah! I don't think they're tameable right now, haven't seen any around whatsoever nor are they listed on Petopia as said above, but I was wondering if it was just that they were classed as something other than Beasts or whatever anyone's thoughts were.

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:23 pm
by Makoes
O.o you're right...I am surprised they aren't there...

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:37 pm
by Vephriel
If I recall correctly the crystal scorpids are a bit finicky with their models, which I think is the reason we can't tame them? Their tails are a separate entity which wouldn't translate well after taming. Even wowhead can't display them properly in the 3D model viewer:

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=103217/cryst ... iewer:10+0

It's a shame because they're beautiful models, but I seem to remember some discussion around that previously.

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:52 am
by Wain
Great question!

I've been thinking about finding a way to add them to the untameables data, but there are definite issues with the model, as Veph mentioned. They use newer technology and are composed of about half a dozen different models that are somehow assembled by the game and work as a single unit! There's the main body, the stinger, two antennae/feeler things, and also a couple of other crystals. Somehow the game takes all those things and makes them work as a single model, with physics data to tell them how to behave. The new pennants on Vicious mounts work the same way : the flags are separate models and swing independently. Unfortunately Wowmodelviewer doesn't support that right now, nor do the model viewers on Wowhead and MMO-C. For the mounts on WCM I did some creative work to look like they had flags attached, but it's much harder for the scorpids. I'll see if we can get it supported by Wowmodelviewer and get decent screenshots at least.

Anyway, apparently those issues mean they can't be tameable (at least in current design) because it wouldn't spawn the entire model. Or at least that's what I was led to believe back in Beta. Whether it's still true or not I'm unsure.

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:06 am
by Talihawk
aww that's a shame they are so pretty!

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:44 pm
by Jatbirkkal
Neato. I wanted answers and I got them. While it's unfortunate, it's better than not knowing. I was just curious since I didn't see them there, never really noticed the differences in them compared to the Amber Scorpid (Again, was in LFR at the time so they didn't remain still or alive for long lol.) but upon a closer inspection I do see the differences in the model. Definitely, though, these are my *biggest* desire currently for pets; they're beautiful creepy crawlies and I wantz them.

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:44 pm
by Wain
They are gorgeous. I hope they can get them to work as pets :)

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:52 am
by Quiv
I hadn't noticed this, I thought they were just recolors of the amber scorpids with a little glowy outline added. I hope they are fixable, cuz they are purty. Also the new fire scorpid model!

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:27 pm
by Wain
I've added their looks :) Click on an image to view the page :

Blue :

Image

Green:

Image

Red:

Image

On the main family page they'll be initially hidden inside a collapsed row, since they're untameable. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Re: Nighthold Scorpids

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:41 pm
by Vephriel
*chinhands and longs for*