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Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:09 pm
by Adam-Savage
This just makes me cry.. A lvl 78 blue bow is better then a 10 man ICC bow..
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Amber Messenger
Rare
Binds when picked up
Bow
Ranged
Speed 2.90
600 - 1115 Damage
(295.7 damage per second)
+51 Agility
+77 Stamina
Durability 75 / 75
Requires Level 78
Item Level 279
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 36.
Equip: Improves hit rating by 30.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59775/brea ... d-longbow/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57347/bloodbolt-crossbow/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55782/amber-messenger/
Same with my axe I got from ICC as.. A lvl 78 blue beats it...*cry*
Lightning Whelk Axe
Rare
Binds when picked up
Axe
One-Hand
Speed 2.60
413 - 766 Damage
(226.7 damage per second)
+69 Agility
+104 Stamina
Durability 90 / 90
Requires Level 78
Item Level 279
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 46.
Equip: Improves hit rating by 46.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55203/lightning-whelk-axe/
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:12 pm
by Saturo
Well, tis' what they've done with every expansion to date, just not to this extent...
It always pained me to throw away my phat epix for some green, ugly crossbow.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:14 pm
by Adam-Savage
I expected to replace the gear but not to replace with something that is a lvl 78...
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 pm
by Undra
well, to be fair, you're looking at a new item with the new stat distribution compairing it to the old item with the old stat distribution. What does- wait, the 78 is ilvl 279? Okay yeah that is messed up. I was going to ask what the icc stuff looks like under the new rules, but if something 2 levels lower is over 20 ilvls higher then it's not even a contest.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:16 pm
by Kalliope
Keep in mind that that bow has its ammo built into it and your live one doesn't.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:18 pm
by Undra
Kalliope wrote:Keep in mind that that bow has its ammo built into it and your live one doesn't.
That too, which goes back to figuring out what icc gear looks like first before dispairing about blues and greens.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:19 pm
by Saturo
Kalliope wrote:Keep in mind that that bow has its ammo built into it and your live one doesn't.
Oh right, we need to subtract 91.5DPS from it.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:23 pm
by Kalliope
Oh, and as a general guideline, my BT/Hyjal gear lasted me to my mid-70s, which was when I started replacing it. Depending on the itemization of greens and blues, your epics may last you longer than you think. But don't get TOO attached to them; we only have five levels to gain in this expansion, so the entire system may change.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:57 pm
by Makoes
main reason why i never go crazy on trying to get endgame loot, it gets replaced far to easily in next expansions. However, like what was pointed out, the gear is going to be getting re-vamp'd, so until that patch/expansion comes out, cant really compare them yet.
But i did (on my druid) keep my lv 70 pvp gear all the way to lv 80 before I replaced it cuz, whats the point in even trying to replace gear (unless by quest reward) when your going to be doing a major overhaul at the lv cap. And since this expansion is only 5 more levels...I am sure lv 80 icc gear will make it to lv 85 dungeons.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:23 am
by Ungoro
I'm surpriesd you didn't post about the Elementium Poleaxe, which was on MMO's front page:
Elementium Poleaxe
Epic
Binds when equipped
Polearm
Two-Hand
Speed 3.50
1527 - 2836 Damage
(623.3 damage per second)
+341 Agility
+512 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 85
Item Level 359
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 228.
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 228.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55066/elementium-poleaxe/
Although keep in mind this is a level 85 item and made through blacksmithing!
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:46 am
by Keilden
All weapons are hunter weapons.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:42 am
by Palladiamorsdeus
Blizard has stated that everything is going to shoot through the roof in those five levels, and that by the time you reach level cap, you'll have probably replaced all of your old gear. All of it. Soooo, yeah. Hope you're not to fond of anything!
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:44 am
by Keilden
I hope they add more "fun" weapons like the broom and shovels, not many of them nowdays.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:56 am
by Mackey
Going slightly off-topic... I always hoped they'd add slingshots as hunter weapons, and they'd use bullets. Two types of weapons using arrows, two using bullets.
But since ammo is going away, it doesn't really matter.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:46 pm
by Makoes
Ohhhhh, I hope that polearm looks cool, they are by far my fav weapon! And one that can be crafted XD YAY!! My friends a BS so I'll pester him to make me one!!!
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:44 pm
by Valashe
Many of, if not all of your current Hunter's weapons will have their stats changed once Cat goes live due to the removal of ArP and Int from them. I'm certain that since this is only the 2nd or 3rd beta patch that the full re-itemization hasn't taken place.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:46 pm
by tramani
just like in tbc , every random drop green was better then your epic BT gear
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:30 pm
by Kalliope
tramani wrote:just like in tbc , every random drop green was better then your epic BT gear
This is simply not so. Greens are never as well-itemized and epics, even if the base stats are higher, simply because the distribution of points (and occasional set bonuses) are better.
Re: Hunter Weapons
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:37 pm
by Adam-Savage
Kalliope wrote:tramani wrote:just like in tbc , every random drop green was better then your epic BT gear
This is simply not so. Greens are never as well-itemized and epics, even if the base stats are higher, simply because the distribution of points (and occasional set bonuses) are better.
The greens are about Ulduar/Trial of Champion level.