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Can any of the beta-ers or those more 'in the loop' let me know about...

The goblins, specifically quest goblins and flight masters, at Booty Bay and more particularly Ratchet? Are they still neutral, or are they hostile to Alliance now? Are they still Steamwheedle Cartel?

Thanks!!

The Goblins that join the Horde are from the Bilgewater Cartel. The Goblins from the Steamwheedle Cartel are a completely different faction and their reputation has nothing to do with the Bilgewater Cartel.

Related question:
Do they use the upgraded model?

Saturo wrote:Related question:
Do they use the upgraded model?

From what i've seen in totalbiscuits video and others, most goblins should be using the new models. I'd love for someone in the beta to post SS if possible.

Are you in the beta? I'm not trying to be rude, it just sounds like you're commenting on the lore--and I already know that; I just need to be 100% sure that the Ratchet & BB goblins will remain neutral to Horde/Alliance, and that we'll be able to lose or gain rep with them in-game come Cata.

I have my reasons. They may not be GOOD, but I have them.

Yes, I am 100% sure the Ratchet/Everlook/Gadgetzan/Booty Bay Goblins are all neutral still. As above, they are a different cartel to those of the Bilgewater Cartel in the Horde. And, yes, I am in Beta

Y'know, I was never worried about those goblins, because I knew that Blizz wouldn't just remove one of the main factions to gain rep and such with like that. Besides, as they've already said, it's a different faction of goblins. Just like there's different factions of dwarves, and as we all know, not all dwarves are nice, short people who occasionally engage in binge drinking. Some are our enemies. Same for the goblins. Some are our friends, some aren't.

Well... *cough*

I may be asking because of my Horde-side reputation standing with them, and the ability or lack thereof to enter certain towns on certain characters.

*shiftyeyes*

Heh. I'm trying to make at least Booty Bay like me before Cata. xD I'm still hated with them all and it makes me sad. =( I mean, I just committed genocide on their race for a fancy title and pirate outfit...

-coughs-

I need to farm Scarlet Monastery for silk. <_< >_>

I just REALLY love wPvP; I do it a lot on my mage, and the Crossroads attackers don't seem to grasp that running to Ratchet won't stop me. Unfortunately, the Ratchet guards don't get it either : /

Valashe wrote:

Saturo wrote:Related question:
Do they use the upgraded model?

From what i've seen in totalbiscuits video and others, most goblins should be using the new models. I'd love for someone in the beta to post SS if possible.

It's probably an inevitable consequence of goblins being added as a player race, but it's also terribly depressing, seeing as none of the player goblin models currently have giant, sleazy grins.