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Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:36 pm
by SpiritBinder
Now that we have had time to think and digest the fact that volley will no longer be around, whether for good or bad, I was just curious to, if any, peoples main concern to its removal. This is not about QQ, just for us all to get a general idea of what each other are thinking, as a little hunter community 
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Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:19 pm
by Silvarain
sometimes when im out skinning/mining i get jumped by mobs who..., well, just dont know any better. volley/viper is a nice way to drop them quick (and keep my mana) and move on to the next node before some other miner gets to it hehe. i wonder just how the removal of volley will effect some professions now that i think about it...
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:21 pm
by Vephriel
It doesn't really bother me. I know they've got something else planned, and I'm perfectly okay with a change in direction from constant AoE spam like we have now.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:32 pm
by RakuRaku
Vephriel wrote:It doesn't really bother me. I know they've got something else planned, and I'm perfectly okay with a change in direction from constant AoE spam like we have now.
I agree with this.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:50 pm
by Mr. Perfect
The issue does not really bother me.
I don't really like using volley, since it's a channeled spell. Activate spell, choose ground, stare at magic arrows falling from the sky. Pretty freaking boring after doing some sort of shot rotation.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:04 am
by Kalliope
While I trust Blizzard enough to change multi into something else useful, I just don't see the point of playing to "realism" now, this many years after volley's been around. All I can say is that Fan of Knives isn't very realistic either, so that should also be removed, in all fairness.
I don't really care too much about how the news was released, since that's all window dressing anyway. Provided that Blizzard actually has a true master plan here, and one that is balanced, I don't care if they screw up in the PR department.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:05 am
by Sarayana
RakuRaku wrote:Vephriel wrote:It doesn't really bother me. I know they've got something else planned, and I'm perfectly okay with a change in direction from constant AoE spam like we have now.
I agree with this.
Me too. They're not trying to gimp any class, they're trying to make sure it feels different to play a hunter than it does to play a mage or a warlock. If all our aoe is a channeled "rain" then, well, what's the difference? I'd rather have them focus on making multishot better.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:20 am
by Jaraii
Also, this brings us away from just spamming a button that doesn't fit the class. I mean, how does making arrows appear in a given spot have much of anything to do with a bow/gun? One thing i thought they'd eventually do is make an animation where the arrows arc up from our raised weapon to the target spot, but oh well.
Due to the lack of AoE situations in cat though, I don't think I'll miss the spell I hate the most.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:26 am
by Moonlost
I'm more curious as to how multishot is going to shape up. I'll be reserving my final judgement on the matter once I see the final form of Multishot.
That said, I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little sad to see volley go. Much fun was had shooting magic arrows from the sky as my turtle (or gorilla back in the day) kept aggro on himself.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:31 am
by Anyia
Jaraii wrote: One thing i thought they'd eventually do is make an animation where the arrows arc up from our raised weapon to the target spot, but oh well.
I must admit I'd hoped we'd get the volley animation used in ICC by the trash before Sister Svalna - that looked like real volleys of arrows!
As long as Blizz manages to turn multi shot into something that can mostly cover the niche currently occupied by volley I don't mind. In fact, I think it'll take more time to adjust to a New Improved Multishot than the lack of volley. After how-many years of running the mental sequence of "multi off cooldown, is there more than one target, is there a sheep within spread range" I imagine the change will feel a bit odd.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:41 am
by Kalliope
Anyia wrote:Jaraii wrote: One thing i thought they'd eventually do is make an animation where the arrows arc up from our raised weapon to the target spot, but oh well.
I must admit I'd hoped we'd get the volley animation used in ICC by the trash before Sister Svalna - that looked like real volleys of arrows!
We actually had that earlier in LK, but it didn't go over well and was removed quickly.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:20 am
by Anyia
Kalliope wrote:We actually had that earlier in LK, but it didn't go over well and was removed quickly.
What? When? How could I possibly have missed that given all the aoe pulls in LK? *most puzzled*
Or was this right at release before I started running instances? Just curious...
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:43 am
by Dvatori
The thing I'll miss most about it will be no longer being able to contribute ambiance to impromptu discos in IF.
C'est la vie.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:52 am
by Kalliope
Anyia wrote:Kalliope wrote:We actually had that earlier in LK, but it didn't go over well and was removed quickly.
What? When? How could I possibly have missed that given all the aoe pulls in LK? *most puzzled*
Or was this right at release before I started running instances? Just curious...
I *believe* it was after launch, but it could have been the end of BC too. It was Naxx or Uld at the latest.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:19 am
by Kaswryn
Kalliope wrote:Anyia wrote:Kalliope wrote:We actually had that earlier in LK, but it didn't go over well and was removed quickly.
What? When? How could I possibly have missed that given all the aoe pulls in LK? *most puzzled*
Or was this right at release before I started running instances? Just curious...
I *believe* it was after launch, but it could have been the end of BC too. It was Naxx or Uld at the latest.
Here's a video of a hunter using the older Volley. The comments pretty much explain the "didn't go over well" part of why they changed it ^-^;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jU28lrIcC8
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:44 am
by Anyia
Thanks for that! I guess it might've been late BC before volley did useful damage and that's why I never noticed it. Comments not withstanding, I still reckon that animation was better than the old/current one. Not that it matters now with the Cata changes
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:30 am
by Undra
There's jsut too much we don't know and all we have to go on is a sudden change with the promise that Multi will be different eventually. Blizzard has a bad habit of changing things without a fix right on it's tails, and even though some of it can be excused because this is all beta, it's still jerking around everyone who is watching cataclysm develope.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:40 am
by Mindsprocket
I mostly don't like how the removal was handled. Recently the Blues have something very irritating in their tone, no matter what they talk about. Probably due to high stress levels, so I hope things will get better again.
I also voted "other" which in my case means "everything and nothing". XD On the one hand, yes, I think about our AOE abilities, utility, soloing etc without volley. On the other hand, I'm not actually worried. To me, getting freaked out over anything that happens in beta is like crying over milk that hasn't even been spilt yet. And especially with hunters there's so much change happening that it's pretty much impossible for me to know what's good or bad until they're done and I can try things myself.
So, I'll just wait and see.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:02 am
by Mockingbird
Sarayana wrote:RakuRaku wrote:Vephriel wrote:It doesn't really bother me. I know they've got something else planned, and I'm perfectly okay with a change in direction from constant AoE spam like we have now.
I agree with this.
Me too. They're not trying to gimp any class, they're trying to make sure it feels different to play a hunter than it does to play a mage or a warlock. If all our aoe is a channeled "rain" then, well, what's the difference? I'd rather have them focus on making multishot better.
+1 for this.
as long as they do a decent job giving us a viable tool with multishot, I'm not particularly attached to the volley mechanic/graphic.
I don't PvP enough to need it for LoSing/rogue finding, but I appreciate it's a concern for those who do.
Re: Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:18 am
by Sukurachi
I don't give a poop about the graphics. I DO care that it will make AoE farming a bit more tedious.