The WOW Movie.

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The WOW Movie.

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Every once and a while people mention that WoW will be making a movie. So far, with known info collected together on one awesome page on WoWWiki, the film will be directed by Sam Raimi (Uwe Boll wanted to direct but thank the Light someone must seen his work on BloodRayne), the screenplay will be by written Robert Rodat (who wrote the screenplays for Saving Private Ryan and The Patriot), and the plot has the film set a year before World of Warcraft, the story will be told from the Alliance point of view, and the main-character wll be a kick-a** human and Anti-Thrall. But the character won't be King Varian. According to Co-Producer Chris Metzen that for the sake of the film lore will have to be bent, (gee, when hasn't Blizz bent lore to make things fit like they want?) and that King Varian might have a twin.

Sadly, no cast has been announced.

If you were allowed to add your input to the film, what things would you say to make it a good and memoriable film for the legions of WoW fans and to non- Wow fans who just want a good movie to watch.
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What is kind of disappointing to me is that it's only from the Alliance point of view. I find this is a pretty classic way that people think about Alliance and Horde, especially when they haven't played WoW before--the Alliance is 'good' and the Horde is 'bad.' In actuality, they just have different views and goals, like any other collection of nations. Some humans can be very cruel, for example, while some orcs can be incredibly honorable.

What I would REALLY love is if they followed the stories of two different characters, one alli-side, and one horde-side. That way you'd get the input of both sides, and neither side would look "evil." As it is, I'm afraid the Horde is going to get an even worse reputation amongst non-players (and maybe even younger players) for being 'bad,' when in fact they are not.

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Think of it positively tough, if the younger players and the new players go alliance, the horde will be a more mature environment.

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This movie may help with WoW PVP. If tons of new an young players start allies, that means Horde will make honor gains incredibly easy.
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I suppose those are gains. But it still bugs me as a writer and rper that the Horde is going to be viewed as 'evil.' They aren't :(

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VelkynKarma wrote:I suppose those are gains. But it still bugs me as a writer and rper that the Horde is going to be viewed as 'evil.' They aren't :(

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Mm, yeah. =/ It's a shame it can't be told from both points of view. Ah well, I'll be seeing it regardless and wearing my Horde shirt to the theatre. ;)
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My idea so the Horde doesn't get cast as the villian would be simply have an Alliance and a Horde character working together to fight some left over Scourge remnant. The main characters would be a human, his brother who is now a Forsaken having to fight their other brother who is a Death Knight.
There'd be no need to bend lore to give Varian a twin and the anti-Thrall part of the human could be dumped.
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I am really, really scared of this movie...

First, they are bound to make it as a standalone. So all we know about Azeroth and its history will be like non existent. Second, the staff will not be as dedicated as the staff for Lord of the Rings was. It's bound to fail utterly. Third, they will display the horde as evil monsters which will distort the whole view on Azeroth even more. Fourth, they probably want to make some money from that license and hope to achieve that by haveing the WoW-logo on the posters. The rest... I don't want to think about it...

You may say about Uwe Boll what you want and yes, I don't like his movies either, but he never ever lost money on a movie! Every little piece of crap that idiot brought to the screen made him richer. Amazing, isn't it?

Let's just pray that Blizz will put their foot down and have an eye on what is happening there...
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What they need to show is the struggle between the Aliance and the Horde; both thinking the other is the evil side.. Then the Evil of the scourge bringing the two opposing views into an uneasy alliance.. to combat a greater evil than our two opposing anthemas alone... And show that even foes when opposed to a greater evil can put asside old hatreds and work in harmony...... Thus a richer and fuller experience for a younger audience...

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That would be an epic movie but it's been already made official that this movie will only be on alliance side.

Maybe to save some money on makeup? If the have to save money even before the started making the movie... *thinking*

I'm so scared of this movie!
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Love the Alliance, but I cant say I disagree with the 'two sides of the story' idea. The Horde isnt per definition more ruthless then the alliance.

Now the Old horde, that was a depraved bunch of sadists, in wow however q texts pretty much tell you that bloodthirsty raiders and peaceful protectors can be found among all the races.

But let's not forget that making a succesful movie about a game is tricky business, fans will systematically be looking for the smallest mistakes and blogging all over themselves when they find one. Non-players will often wonder what it's all about.

If they make the movie about a forsaken and a dranei for example, that means a lot of potential viewers might might be put off by their overall weirdness. By making the movie about a human the studio probably think they will atract more non-player audiences. This isnt the right way to tell azeroth's story, but filmstudios will allways go for the script/actors/pg rating they think will give them the biggest pay-off in the end.

For example: if the movie is about a kick-ass human, he (or she) will most likely be some sort of professional soldier or adventurer. When I think about someone like that, I think scars, patched gear and maybe some missing teeth. 10 to 1 says the part will be played by some underwear model with perfect hair. That isnt realistic, but thats never stopped a filmstudio from doing it. So even if its told from an alliance angle, there's still a good chance alliance players won't like it much either.

Im sort of surprised that blizzard didn't insist on a fair telling of both sides views. Hell its not like they need to compromise to get funding, blizzard's got more money then some governments do. And why even make a live-action version anyway? Considering the overall look of wow an animated movie would make more sense imo.

I mean real-life humans fighting CGI Orcs, Forsaken and Tauren... I dunno. I fear it's going to try to emulate the succes of the Lord of the Rings movies, but lets be honest: Sam Raimi is no Peter Jackson. And Jackson had a very good cast in general.

But who knows? They might even surprise us in a good way ;) And at the end of the day one sucky movie won't kill the franchise or anything
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Karathyriel wrote:I am really, really scared of this movie...

First, they are bound to make it as a standalone. So all we know about Azeroth and its history will be like non existent. Second, the staff will not be as dedicated as the staff for Lord of the Rings was. It's bound to fail utterly. Third, they will display the horde as evil monsters which will distort the whole view on Azeroth even more. Fourth, they probably want to make some money from that license and hope to achieve that by haveing the WoW-logo on the posters. The rest... I don't want to think about it...

You may say about Uwe Boll what you want and yes, I don't like his movies either, but he never ever lost money on a movie! Every little piece of crap that idiot brought to the screen made him richer. Amazing, isn't it?

Let's just pray that Blizz will put their foot down and have an eye on what is happening there...
Yeah, I really don't want to think about it either. Without even seeing the movie, I could probably script a 10 times better movie.

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As long as there's at least one scene featuring gnome punting, I will be pleased. >:D
Seriously though, I'm kinda looking forward to it regardless of how much 'lore bending' takes place in the film.
As far as I'm concerned, the real lore takes place in the games. :D



Edit: At least.. if any friends/family of mine see it I don't have to worry about talking WoW to them and have their eyes glaze over, have drool start forming on their lower lip, and get that "far away" look on their face all of the time. :P

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Not looking forward to it, personally.
I'm thinking the reason for the alliance point of view would be because.. Humans and elves are much easier then Tauren and Trolls. Saving money, perhaps. Still... Ehhh... I'll stick with the game, thanks.

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I have a very bad feeling that the WoW movie will turn out to be the Blizz version of the Dragonball movie.
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Dulanie wrote:I have a very bad feeling that the WoW movie will turn out to be the Blizz version of the Dragonball movie.
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From what I understand the basis of the movie is that of a war movie (hence the particular screenwriter), rather than a quest movie (like LOTR). But setting it such a short time before the "start" of WoW doesn't strike me as particularly interesting. I'd rather see an on-screen telling of the history of Azeroth, covering the key events and so forth. I'm also rather hesitant as to the live-action take... It's a shame it won't be animated by Blizzard's cinematic team bolstered by movie animation houses.
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Got to say that the premise is a bit off putting to me (played Alli for years before going horde-fangirl), but I hope Blizz is not as stupid as to alienate half their player base over this. On the up side, I trust Sam Raimi if he didn't think he could do the subject matter justice, or if he didn't think that his cast or writers could as well, he would be the first to put his foot down and make a call for change.

Raimi just did with the fourth Spider-man movie do to the fact that he found the script appalling and regardless of contract refused to direct it if changes (IE the scriptwriter was canned and flogged for the atrocity that was Spider-man 3) were not met. They didn't, do to the fact that he was the producers hubby, so he put in his letter of resignation as director, they then lost Tobey Maguire once he found out, and the whole thing fell apart. Bye bye Spider-man, now they are having to start the whole thing up for scratch.

So here's for hoping that Blizz knows what is needed and give Raimi what he needs to shine; control of the getting on a cast member's hindquarters if their slacking, the ability to edit the script if something doesn't fly (IE a dance number or some such fail), someone to keep him informed and on track of the lore (Sam loves lore), no less than 5 storyboard artists (Sam loves his storyboarders), and a bottle of Scotch in his office. That is what will make or break this, IMO.

I was able to sit in on a lecture by one of the storyboard artist who worked with Raimi on Sipider-man one and two and apparently those are the things that make him tick as a good director. He had all of that for the first movie and it was excellent. In the second they took all but two storyboarders away form him, made the set a dry zone, and wouldn't let him change the script save for a few small parts, this one was lacking but not enough to be called bad. Then three came around and he still had two other movies to do because of contracts, Sony took away the last two storyboard artists, found his hidden Brandy, would not let him get to much onto the actors (but it's Sam Raimi, you don't under perform for him), and would not let him alter the script at all, this movie was atrocious and his worst film by far, hands down. So here's hoping that it all goes well. *crosses fingers*

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Then let's cross fingers and hope that Sam Raimi has even the slightest clue what WoW is all about...
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I am waiting for a disappoitment to be honest. Almost every game turned movie has been a total failure, because of they twist the story (Silent Hill the movie) and ruin characters alot.
Betting that if Sylvanas is in it, she'll get a new outfit just to make a breast slowmotion scene. (Sylvanas is one good looking banshee queen mind you, saying this as a girl)
I get it that they actualy have to make a new story, because us players would not be suprised if the group of heroes were chased in Halls of Reflections by Arthas, we did it too.Sure there will be lot's of references to the games, oh come on screen writers do think of the fans sometimes.

The movie is no big budjet movie, I think one of the reasons why it is mostly potrayed from the Alliance side is also because most of the actors would be human as someone said.
Because as I see it they might leave out Taurens and Draenei, because trolls, blood elves and so on are humanoid shape in form.

But because we know nothing how the story will go, we just know it is going to be an all out war movie. I think will be that the protagonist will be captured by the Horde, he learns that the Horde is not evil and fights with them to try and reason with the Alliance.

The reason why it's stand alone because it would make Blizz have to make a whole new part to the game, saying this makes Blizz seem a bit lazy but they'd need to go throught every Cata material and rewrite.
In the end this is just to make WoW a bigger deal in the world, making new players and so on.

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