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Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:52 pm
by Shandorei
Will BM hunters be OP?!


You decide - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREfFW75UOI


Actually, I'm not sure if he even is 85 :$ sorry




Edit, okay he is xD

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:56 pm
by Bellatryx
Holy cow.

I feel a thorough beating with the nerf bat coming on in response to a flood of crying on the official wow forums. Anyone else?

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:59 pm
by Shandorei
Oh yeah, I foresee some heavy crying, as usual, but I gtg cinema! cya :D

edit : new resident evil 3d or something, sweetzzZz

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:15 pm
by zedxrgal
Holy crap! And the huntress wasn't even shooting!
And of course I'm sure they're going to be complaints! Jerks.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:16 pm
by VelkynKarma
Haha, I remember my friend complaining about this last week XP

Still pretty awesome though.

~VelkynKarma

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:18 pm
by The Insect Man
THis feels like a fixed fight to me. Cunning pallies spreading their foul propaganda to get us nerfed, you wait... :)

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:36 pm
by Kalliope
Ret pallies are VERY VERY unhappy that they actually have to build up their attacks; they can't just 1-2-3 people anymore. This had led to much hilarity. I consider this payback for how friggin' overpowered they were in 3.0. :P

Seriously, though, the pally is standing there eating the damage from the pet. Resilience does jack at this stage. He isn't even attempting to kite the pet or, y'know, BUBBLE to avoid big red. It's a DPS PET, not a PvP one. I agree that this is a put-up-job. I call bs.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:29 pm
by Slickrock
Thankfully, it usually takes Blizz more crying than this before they pull out the nerf bat. Unless it's on of their favorite classes.

If this does result in a BM nerf, there's always EVE Online.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:39 pm
by Adam-Savage
Quelthasa wrote:Will BM hunters be OP?!


You decide - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREfFW75UOI


Actually, I'm not sure if he even is 85 :$ sorry




Edit, okay he is xD
BM is way OP even on ptr right now. See my thread below!

http://forums.wow-petopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4601

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:18 pm
by Niabi
Haha.

"Go get'em Woofie! Sic 'em! Good boy!"
</tosses Woofie a treat>

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:17 pm
by Kalliope
Numbers from Wintergrasp might not be totally accurate, due to tenacity.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:53 am
by Slickrock
Grats. You got us nerfed.
# Kill Command now deals [ 21% of RAP + 772.27 ], down from [ 53% of RAP + 839.42 ].
Killing Streak now deals 10/20% more damage with your third Kill Command. Down from 15/30%.
Focus Fire now restores 4 Focus to your pet, down from 10 Focus.
Hope you're happy...

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:35 am
by Knobhead
Slickrock wrote:Grats. You got us nerfed.
# Kill Command now deals [ 21% of RAP + 772.27 ], down from [ 53% of RAP + 839.42 ].
Killing Streak now deals 10/20% more damage with your third Kill Command. Down from 15/30%.
Focus Fire now restores 4 Focus to your pet, down from 10 Focus.
Hope you're happy...
I hope you're not seriously of the opinion that this or any other video caused a nerf to BM's damage. And how can anything be considered a nerf/buff when it hasn't even been released live and is still in beta? It's balancing in this case.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:44 am
by Saturo
Knobhead wrote:
Slickrock wrote:Grats. You got us nerfed.
# Kill Command now deals [ 21% of RAP + 772.27 ], down from [ 53% of RAP + 839.42 ].
Killing Streak now deals 10/20% more damage with your third Kill Command. Down from 15/30%.
Focus Fire now restores 4 Focus to your pet, down from 10 Focus.
Hope you're happy...
I hope you're not seriously of the opinion that this or any other video caused a nerf to BM's damage. And how can anything be considered a nerf/buff when it hasn't even been released live and is still in beta? It's balancing in this case.
Severely needed balancing, even.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:53 am
by The Insect Man
Sigh.

MMO champion reports today that Kill Command damage to be nerfed...

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:57 am
by Redith
The Insect Man wrote:Sigh.

MMO champion reports today that Kill Command damage to be nerfed...
Thats bullS@@@ man. Gah, gotta watch out for their Palis.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:37 am
by Nakari
Kill Command was blatantly overpowered. Better they nerf it now than later (remember what happened to Ret Paladins/DKs who were overpowered in the WotLK beta after 3.0?).

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:39 am
by Kalliope
Yeah, I'd rather see the fine tuning done now than later, after we're really used to it.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:30 pm
by Slickrock
The thing that irks me is not "balancing". The thing that irks me is the QQ in the forums and now even YouTube for Hunter nerfs. What happens on release? People remember that video, assume BM is still OP, and QQ more for nerfs. And if the sea of tears is large enough, Blizz listens.

Also, since we are one of the classes that scale the worst when coming to damage, I'm always concerned about damage reductions before we even get started.

A 61% reduction in damage from Kill Command is not fine tuning, that's a blunt club upside the head.

Kill Command is supposed to be the BM special now, right? Well it looks to be hitting for 40% of what it used to. Hello bottom rung of damage. Considering the additional nerf to Killing Streak (getting to be a very weak talent now) and the nerf to pet focus regen.

So if the reports of 20k crits from KC were accurate, those high crits should now be about 7k.

And that pally is probably dancing in the streets.

If the LK pattern holds, 9 months from now they'll realize BM hunters are bottom rung and give us a half-ass buff and promise to fix us in the Emerald Dream expansion.

Re: Haha! Catacylsm 85 -PET- vs lvl 85 paladin!

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:32 pm
by Slickrock
Nakari wrote:Kill Command was blatantly overpowered. Better they nerf it now than later (remember what happened to Ret Paladins/DKs who were overpowered in the WotLK beta after 3.0?).
And ever since they've had a "don't nerf me bro" complex, while becoming massive QQers themselves.

We lost Volley due to mage QQ. "The hunters are beating us on AOE!!"
Quelthasa wrote:Will BM hunters be OP?!
No, no we wont be. We'll be bottom tier of hunters (and dps in general) because Blizz is making us a buffing class.