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4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [fixed]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:28 am
by Tilo
As some of you know one of the most neat quests at least in my opinion was the Rhok'Delar, upon completing the quest you get:

http://www.wowhead.com/item=18714
http://www.wowhead.com/item=18715
http://www.wowhead.com/item=20488

Well I held on to my Ancient Petrified Leaf, cause' well I did forget about it, & also I never found any sinew on the AH to finish it, so I finally got a few sinews, & went to turn it in to work on the quest(s), & get the staff, bow, & quiver, well now you can't even do the quest anymore, it now ends at Vatrus the Ancient.

Someone else put in a ticket on the EU forums regarding a completely unrelated quest & got this reply:
"This quest among others has been removed in preparation for cataclysm as they will no longer be completable due to massive game world changes. Thank you for taking the time to report this by the way."
Someone else on wow-head turned this quest in & as myself, never got the continuation & put in a ticket, & got this response:
"We are aware of the situation you reported, and we are currently working on a solution."
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Edit:
Nethaera - 10/21/2010
Those of you hoping to pick up a Rhok’delar, Longbow of the Ancient Keepers might be happy to know that the issues which were preventing the completion of this quest should now be resolved.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:34 am
by SpiritBinder
Tilo wrote:As some of you know one of the most neat quests at least in my opinion was the Rhok'Delar, upon completing the quest you get:

http://www.wowhead.com/item=18714
http://www.wowhead.com/item=18715
http://www.wowhead.com/item=20488

Well I held on to my Ancient Petrified Leaf, cause' well I did forget about it, & also I never found any sinew on the AH to finish it, so I finally got a few sinews, & went to turn it in to work on the quest(s), & get the staff, bow, & quiver, well now you can't even do the quest anymore, it now ends at Vatrus the Ancient.

Someone else put in a ticket on the EU forums regarding a completely unrelated quest & got this reply:
"This quest among others has been removed in preparation for cataclysm as they will no longer be completable due to massive game world changes. Thank you for taking the time to report this by the way."
Someone else on wow-head turned this quest in & as myself, never got the continuation & put in a ticket, & got this response:
"We are aware of the situation you reported, and we are currently working on a solution."
Are you serious? They are removing it???? But... but... thats just so sad :( ...
Did they mention this before and I just missed it or is it just a recent thing?

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:50 am
by Anyia
There have been mentions that all class-specific quests are going away in the cataclysm, but I don't have a link to back that claim up right now.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:31 am
by Makoes
Quote:
"We are aware of the situation you reported, and we are currently working on a solution."

Is a standered GM reply to "Appease" players and make them think that blizzard is actually going to do something about it when they actually aren't...

"currently working on a solution" in this case will probably involve the complete removal of all steps of this quest chain, since class quests have been removed from the game as of the last patch.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:34 am
by cowmuflage
yeah blizz has said they are removeing ALL class quests. Was ages ago i think.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:51 am
by Mustafah
hopefully there will be other ones to replace them.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:24 am
by Makoes
Mustafah wrote:hopefully there will be other ones to replace them.
Unfortunitily I think this is one of those "Live in hope, die in dispair" situations. I believe blizzard stated that they wanted to do away with the class quests completely.

Myself, I would rather wish that they would Add many more Class quests...this in an mmoRPG right? well, we need more Class RPG quests. Something to make us feel like our classes actually mean something within the game world and not just define us by out fighting preferences.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:43 am
by Gungnir
Yeah it is one thing i am really sad about since I have been playing since 2004 and never got to complete it. We had just started downing Rag in MC when BC hit and I never saw the leaf drop for me. I only recently went back to get it after hearing the quiver turned into a bag. It really made my heart sink when there were no quests after turning in the leaf. Thank you for getting my hopes up and then smashing them in my face Blizz. :cry:

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:55 am
by Sarayana
Makoes wrote:
Mustafah wrote:hopefully there will be other ones to replace them.
Unfortunitily I think this is one of those "Live in hope, die in dispair" situations. I believe blizzard stated that they wanted to do away with the class quests completely.
There will be two new quests per class, one at 20 and one at 50, both taking you into level appropriate dungeons and rewarding a selection of blues relevant to each spec. Unfortunately I can't find the source right now. :(

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:57 pm
by Vephriel
The discontinuation of Class-specific quests saddens me as well. I really don't see how they were so terrible, they added a lot of fun and flavor. As long as every class had the same amount of quests at the same time periods I don't see it taking away anything from game. I agree with Makoes, they should add some more of them instead of removing them altogether.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:29 pm
by SpiritBinder
cowmuflage wrote:yeah blizz has said they are removeing ALL class quests. Was ages ago i think.
I had heard of it for sure, I just thought that they were doing it when cata arrived, not now, when the world has not changed yet, tis all a bit sad : (

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 am
by Byako
I'm just glad I finished it before this patch. Though I'm still missing my quiver ;(

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:21 am
by Ryai
Vephriel wrote:The discontinuation of Class-specific quests saddens me as well. I really don't see how they were so terrible, they added a lot of fun and flavor. As long as every class had the same amount of quests at the same time periods I don't see it taking away anything from game. I agree with Makoes, they should add some more of them instead of removing them altogether.

This.

Just this.

It's so bloody hypocritical from Blizzard too! 'Oh we're taking these away because they're unfair; but we leave out we give druids free flight form for slow flight. That Paladins and Warlocks could cheaply buy riding skill and mount together- and oh the latter two get two free mounts to boot, too!'

*facepalm*

Does this mean the pally tabard is gone? I really loved the blood knight tabard :/

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:26 am
by Sarayana
I know I said I can't find the source, but I'll repeat what I said above:
Sarayana wrote:There will be two new quests per class, one at 20 and one at 50, both taking you into level appropriate dungeons and rewarding a selection of blues relevant to each spec. Unfortunately I can't find the source right now. :(
They're not removing class quests, they're revamping them. I'll dig around some today and see if I can find the source.

Edit: I found this thread, which unfortunately doesn't have the blue post for it, but which specifies that there'll be class-specific dungeon quests at level 20 and 50, with blue rewards at the end:
we are going to have class-specific dungeon quests for everyone at levels 20 and 50. These won’t be as involved as, say, the old Benediction quest line, but they will give you a way to get some blue loot that isn’t otherwise available
Edit 2: Oh look, a blue post!
Valnoth wrote:We'll make an announcement when class quests are ready for testing. The format will likely change as well, but we're not prepared to talk about that just yet.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:29 am
by Ryai
Why the hell at 20 tho? Why not 30 and 50? As that's usually the gauntlet of needing new or better gear as RNG lfg bags are worth crap half the time.

Caster? For hunters? Ahahahahaha.

-.- and melee items for casters.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:10 am
by Sarayana
Ryai wrote:Why the hell at 20 tho? Why not 30 and 50? As that's usually the gauntlet of needing new or better gear as RNG lfg bags are worth crap half the time.
I don't know why they chose level 20, but 1) we don't know what it'll be like to get gear as we level in Cataclysm, you're talking about gearing in the current game; and 2) it seems like a good time to introduce new players to dungeons. Class quests seem ideal since Blizz has an easy way of introducing it to all players, whether they're new or seasoned - I know I missed many epic quest chains as I was leveling because I happened to not visit the quest giver at the appropriate level range. Having the class trainers give the quest solves that.
Ryai wrote:Caster? For hunters? Ahahahahaha.

-.- and melee items for casters.
... I've no idea what you're talking about, I looked over both of those linked posts and all I see is that the end rewards will be blue quality and not otherwise available. Am I missing something?

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:21 pm
by Ryai
Sarayana wrote:... I've no idea what you're talking about, I looked over both of those linked posts and all I see is that the end rewards will be blue quality and not otherwise available. Am I missing something?
I was talking about the RNG of the LFG bags. IE you can be a hunter. You can join a random as a lowbie. You open the bag- you get caster leather or mail. Same with casters, you open the bag up? Melee cloaks, rings, etc. I've heard of a warrior who got nothing but caster gear from 15-60 from the bags. Edit: It's also why I mentioned why not level 30, as usually between lv 30-50 I have to pvp for gear, lv 20 is easy street which once again makes me ask why, when it's about quest loot that we've 'not seen before' which will most likely be blue and all.


And class trainers always gave the quests, Sar, whenever you would get to level 50ish or so, they'd have a grey ! as you approach the right level, they would also have a ! and all that. All my class quests came from trainers so I don't know how you missed out on it, unless you had some UI issues.

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:42 pm
by Mindsprocket
I really like the idea of new class quests and really wonder what they will be like. The old ones certainly didn't work very well, most of them anyway. They were a nice idea but pretty badly designed imo, so they ended up just being a waste of time. Like the shaman totem quests, the one for the water totem especially. ><

Re: 4.0.1 Rhok'Delar Quest [Dead]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:50 pm
by Sarayana
Ryai wrote:I was talking about the RNG of the LFG bags. IE you can be a hunter. You can join a random as a lowbie. You open the bag- you get caster leather or mail. Same with casters, you open the bag up? Melee cloaks, rings, etc. I've heard of a warrior who got nothing but caster gear from 15-60 from the bags. Edit: It's also why I mentioned why not level 30, as usually between lv 30-50 I have to pvp for gear, lv 20 is easy street which once again makes me ask why, when it's about quest loot that we've 'not seen before' which will most likely be blue and all.
Ah my bad, I didn't read it as an extension of what you said right above. >_< I agree, those loot bags are pissing me off. Aoani got her first actually usefully itemised shoulders the other day... mail. She was level 34. Now that she's almost 40, all the mail shoulders she gets are with intellect. *sigh*
My point still stands that we're talking about the live game, whereas these new quests are going to be in Cata. We've no idea what gearing will be like in Cata, but from what I've gleaned from videos, it looks better.
Ryai wrote:And class trainers always gave the quests, Sar, whenever you would get to level 50ish or so, they'd have a grey ! as you approach the right level, they would also have a ! and all that. All my class quests came from trainers so I don't know how you missed out on it, unless you had some UI issues.
When I said that having the class trainers introduce the dungeon quest chain at level 20 was a good idea because I missed quest chains as I leveled, I was talking in general. As I did Loremaster, I realised that I had missed some great chains in Azshara, I didn't do several that started in Blasted Lands (blasted Blasted Lands :( ) and so on. As a way of introducing these to new players, class quests are an excellent option, and level 20 seems a reasonable time to do so.