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Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:14 pm
by grafx
Just saw a survival hunter running around with karoma...

im pretty sure it was spirit beast on beta....was it changed?

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:23 pm
by finaar
It is a Spirit Beast, however:

He might have caught a ghost wolf - it was available for a few weeks thanks to that method of catching pets with appearence buffs; or he might have caugth a Grimtotem Spirit Guide, which was tameable for the first few weeks of TBC if I remeber rightly. Both those beasts are Wolfs, not Spirit Beasts, and the first one loses his ghostly appearence with death.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:58 pm
by Dr. Rockso
and if it was a Ghost wolf he wont be using it much cause as soon as it dies it looses that look :)

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:23 pm
by Slickrock
Dr. Rockso wrote:and if it was a Ghost wolf he wont be using it much cause as soon as it dies it looses that look :)
Unless it was the original ghost wolf. And then he's likely a good hunter.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:22 pm
by Pent
Slickrock wrote:
Dr. Rockso wrote:and if it was a Ghost wolf he wont be using it much cause as soon as it dies it looses that look :)
Unless it was the original ghost wolf. And then he's likely a good hunter.
Dang... you mean I can't be a good hunter without the original ghost wolf?

I'll guess I'll roll a tank class then.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:44 pm
by Lisaara
Slickrock wrote:
Dr. Rockso wrote:and if it was a Ghost wolf he wont be using it much cause as soon as it dies it looses that look :)
Unless it was the original ghost wolf. And then he's likely a good hunter.
I'd like to know why having the original ghost wolf makes him a good hunter. He could be a total huntard and still have it as far as I'm concerned.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:55 pm
by Acherontia
Guessing he means because of how long the hunter's then been around. I'd hope after playing for so long you'd be a half-decent player, but some of the things I've seen... :lol:

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:11 pm
by erwil
Can unfortunately confirm that a ghost wolf doesn't necessarily make a hunter "good" in any shape of form. I know a pvp champ who owns the old grimtotem wolf, and he's a very rude and childish individual.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:34 am
by Jroaeyl
Karoma and Ghostcrawler are the first non-elite Spirit Beasts. So SV and MM can use them. :)

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:41 am
by Slickrock
Acherontia wrote:Guessing he means because of how long the hunter's then been around. I'd hope after playing for so long you'd be a half-decent player, but some of the things I've seen... :lol:
This.

erwil wrote:Can unfortunately confirm that a ghost wolf doesn't necessarily make a hunter "good" in any shape of form. I know a pvp champ who owns the old grimtotem wolf, and he's a very rude and childish individual.
Didn't mean this either.

But, you had to have your shit together in order to make that tame. Jerk or good guy is irrelevant.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:54 am
by Jin
Jroaeyl wrote:Karoma and Ghostcrawler are the first non-elite Spirit Beasts. So SV and MM can use them. :)
What?

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:01 am
by Ryai
Slickrock wrote:
erwil wrote:Can unfortunately confirm that a ghost wolf doesn't necessarily make a hunter "good" in any shape of form. I know a pvp champ who owns the old grimtotem wolf, and he's a very rude and childish individual.
Didn't mean this either.

But, you had to have your shit together in order to make that tame. Jerk or good guy is irrelevant.
That doesn't make you a good hunter...?

Mean it wasn't seriously hard to stack haste. It never is hard to stack haste. Stacking haste doesn't make you a good hunter, Slickrock. All those hunters were, were lucky. Nothing more, nothing less. Because seriously going by that definition, the people who got Krush pre shattering are 'good hunters' while the rest of us are not as 'good hunters'...

All they had was the money to spend on drums, shaman and or patience to do it. It's no different than Rosalyn with her burning Roast. Roast doesn't make her a good hunter because she figured out the right time to finish the tame with/without haste >_>

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:04 am
by Jroaeyl
Jin wrote:
Jroaeyl wrote:Karoma and Ghostcrawler are the first non-elite Spirit Beasts. So SV and MM can use them. :)
What?
If you have at least 51-points in the BM talent tree, then you can tame elite beasts. SV and MM cannot tame elites. Since Karoma and Ghostcrawler are non-elites, then any hunter can tame them.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:05 am
by Jin
Eh I thought it depended on what family the beast belonged to...

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:07 am
by Cozzene
Jroaeyl wrote:
Jin wrote:
Jroaeyl wrote:Karoma and Ghostcrawler are the first non-elite Spirit Beasts. So SV and MM can use them. :)
What?
If you have at least 51-points in the BM talent tree, then you can tame elite beasts. SV and MM cannot tame elites. Since Karoma and Ghostcrawler are non-elites, then any hunter can tame them.
LOL. Then, tell me, why did my MM specced hunter have the ELITE serpent from Wailing Caverns? MM and Surv CANNOT tame ANY spirit beast, regardless of being elite or not.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 am
by Gimlion
Jin wrote:Eh I thought it depended on what family the beast belonged to...
It does, Spirit beasts are exotics, which is what gives them the BM-tame tag, not whether or not their elite...

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 am
by Jin
Just respecced to marksman and tried to use Ghostcrawler and I can say for sure that that doesn't work. :P

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:09 am
by Jroaeyl
KK, I stand corrected. lol. In other words, I've confused "elite" and "exotic." doh.

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:26 am
by Gimlion
Jroaeyl wrote:KK, I stand corrected. lol. In other words, I've confused "elite" and "exotic." doh.
It's ok, it was a common mistake, especially with how similar those words are. :D Besides, what the heck type of human doesn't make a few mistakes or misreads every once in a while? ;)

Re: Karoma not a spirit beast?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:36 am
by Jroaeyl
Gimlion wrote:
Jroaeyl wrote:KK, I stand corrected. lol. In other words, I've confused "elite" and "exotic." doh.
It's ok, it was a common mistake, especially with how similar those words are. :D Besides, what the heck type of human doesn't make a few mistakes or misreads every once in a while? ;)
Awesome reply. Thanks! :headbang: