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Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:12 am
by WerebearGuy
Adding to the list of beasts that can't be tamed, despite beast lore saying they can, Amber Parasite in Siege of Orgrimmar. I spent too long getting here, but it was worth it to find this out.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:17 am
by Kaydia
Quick note: I made a place for the new Undead tameables. If you find one, please post in that other thread.

The Hound family is complete, so please direct your attention to the other pet families.

Thank you!

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:32 am
by WerebearGuy
Don't think I saw anyone report it, but https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65229/kyparak keeps its name when tamed.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:05 am
by Kaydia
Got it! Thank you!

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:09 am
by WerebearGuy
Shalebiter, one of three azerite-colored gyreworms, cannot be tamed. Like many dungeon mobs, it SAYS it can be tamed, but incorrectly shows the "cannot be tamed" message. Finding my way past all the trash in MOTHERLODE was wasted time, boo.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:12 am
by Maizou
I'm sure they've all been documented, but all of the beasts prior to the "Tame Beast" quest on Exile's Reach are tameable. Every Beast after the quest is flagged tameable with Beast Lore, but I don't know if there's an actual way to tame them, as you have to tame something to move on. Maybe if you grind out to level 13?

Or is Call Pet 2 something auto learned leaving Exile's Reach?

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:18 am
by WerebearGuy
Call Pet 2 happens at level 10. It's just not shown in the book.

EDIT: Side note, but I hate how legion content is just as deadly as BfA content on PTR. Trivial enemies shouldn't hit that hard. Nighthold scorpions, as expected, are also suffering from beast lore and tame beast giving conflicting messages.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:42 am
by mylura
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Long time lurker, registered to share that I managed to tame Zhao-Ren and he even keeps his name. I leveled the Panda to that point and tried to tame and got the "You don't know how to do this" error. I logged off and copied over one of my hunters that had exalted with the cloud serpents and ran her over to the vendor. Bought the book and used it then logged off and back onto the panda. I was able to tame him at that point so it looks like using the book unlocks cloud serpents for your whole account.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:50 am
by WerebearGuy
Sweet, nice find. I gave up on my pandas so I didn't check. Now I've got to go make a new panda on live, bleh.

EDIT: I got spooked hard. Went to go grab Elegon to see how it looks ingame in different areas, with toys, and all that jazz. As I killed the first boss, I walked by the stone mogu statues that attack you after god knows when (the ones that SHOULD awaken by proximity), and THEIR HEADS TRACKED ME. THE STATUE FORMS' HEADS WERE WATCHING ME. H-E-HOCKEY STICK - HOCKEY STICK NO, I'm done for the night after that.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:00 am
by Kaydia
mylura wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:42 am Image

Long time lurker, registered to share that I managed to tame Zhao-Ren and he even keeps his name. I leveled the Panda to that point and tried to tame and got the "You don't know how to do this" error. I logged off and copied over one of my hunters that had exalted with the cloud serpents and ran her over to the vendor. Bought the book and used it then logged off and back onto the panda. I was able to tame him at that point so it looks like using the book unlocks cloud serpents for your whole account.
That's...strange. I also encountered the same bug in Beta with Zhao-Ren, but Pandaren know how to tame Cloud Serpents innately, the way gnomes and goblins know how to tame mechanicals. Getting an error message saying they don't know how is a bug.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:02 am
by Wain
Hmm, can we be sure Pandaren can tame them without the book? Maybe everyone who tested it had already activated the book on their accounts :/

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:03 am
by Kaydia
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EDIT: Side note, but I hate how legion content is just as deadly as BfA content on PTR. Trivial enemies shouldn't hit that hard. Nighthold scorpions, as expected, are also suffering from beast lore and tame beast giving conflicting messages.
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I had the same problem. I tried to solo normal Maw of Souls with a premade level 50 hunter, which is something I am able to solo on Heroic on live with my 120 hunter. The premade has better gear and wasn't able to get past the first boss. On normal.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:04 am
by Kaydia
Wain wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:02 am Hmm, can we be sure Pandaren can tame them without the book? Maybe everyone who tested it had already activated the book on their accounts :/
Good point. While my Pandaren has 0 Cloud Serpent rep and was able to tame them, she was also able to tame undeads. I think they're both auto-unlocked for testing purposes, for premade characters and copied characters.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:06 am
by WerebearGuy
On PTR, I could NOT tame Zhao-Ren on my panda. This was before I bought the book, and on both a pre-existing panda (the one that can tame Guardian) and a new one. Once I bought the book, I could tame it as Mylura pointed out. Pandas definitely do not have it by default.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:08 am
by Aaralyn
oh no, I think they fixed the small toads from Timeless Isle. I've been using my small toad (critter size) forever, and after copying the character to PTR, it's size was normal :|
I also have ptr-copied characters from 8.2 (they didnt wipe them) and froggo is smol there, so rip

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:15 am
by WerebearGuy
Speaking of smoll pets, the baby direhorn is still a critter in size. I yearn for the days of when it was a baby tank.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:17 am
by WerebearGuy
Someone save me, I started powerleveling a panda to level 20 (equivalent of 65) on PTR to see how much faster it'll be. Upon reaching Zhao-ren, you're almost guaranteed to be level 12. Mining and Herbing both give ~2% exp per level at 12 and 13. Gonna see how long this takes now compared to the 1000~ nodes of mining/herbalism it took on live.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:30 am
by Aaralyn
btw, anyone was able to check Alani, after skyshards were used? :V

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:34 am
by WerebearGuy
I have to figure out which of my 20~ alts have one, but I can copy a character over and over once I find it to try it.

Re: Shadowlands Alpha/Beta Beast Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:38 am
by Aaralyn
nvm i realized there is a lookalike of Alani
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/npc=649 ... u#comments