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Shinryu Masaki wrote:

Kalliope wrote:

Sesamee wrote:DK's, Warriors, one or two of the Shaman specs (via totems), and hunter pets are the classes that bring the Strength/Agi buff right now. If the mastery buff turns out to be pretty rare that might make up for us losing our most powerful buff. I might bring myself to be OK with it in that case.

That's RIGHT NOW. I don't think ANYONE gets that buff come MoP.

Blessing of Kings, Mark of the Wild, and Embrace of the Shale Spider are the buffs that provide Str/Agi as well as Int too, for 5%. Dunno why all of you think it's removed from the game entirely.

Yeah but it's not the specific buff to Str/Agi. The buffs you mentioned above don't stack with each other but do stack with the Str/Agi buffs.

Does anyone know if the Int buffs are being removed too?

Sesamee wrote:Does anyone know if the Int buffs are being removed too?

Unlikely, since water striders have it.

Slickrock wrote:So... Mastery. Guess we had to get it somewhere.

But.. assuming you are running solo, I have to think that Crit based pets will be stronger. The cat era may be over again. Back to Wolves and Trexes?

Quite honestly, with the way pets are now, it shouldn't matter what you're bringing around. In raids, it'll depend on makeup more, but it still shouldn't be too huge an issue. I quite honestly don't see any "eras" coming about any time soon. Maybe, MAYBE an era of Chimaera/Worm Ferocity in large AoE fights, but even then, I won't be bringing one, I have other pets I like better.

Kalliope wrote:

Sesamee wrote:Does anyone know if the Int buffs are being removed too?

Unlikely, since water striders have it.

That's spell power. Seems like it would be similar to an attack power buff rather than straight Int.

Slickrock wrote:But.. assuming you are running solo, I have to think that Crit based pets will be stronger. The cat era may be over again. Back to Wolves and Trexes?

Yeah but the buffs are bringing a huge chunk of mastery. Almost 3500. I'm still H DS geared at lvl 89 on Beta and I have 781 mastery. It's all gonna depend on how stat weights end up but the Mastery buff is looking really good right now.

Sesamee wrote:

Kalliope wrote:

Sesamee wrote:Does anyone know if the Int buffs are being removed too?

Unlikely, since water striders have it.

That's spell power. Seems like it would be similar to an attack power buff rather than straight Int.

Derp, right.

Then I don't know about int.

Aside scrolls, the only buff that gives Int is Kings, Mark and Embrace, and it's % not straight Int like the scrolls. Appears that it's like that on live too. I guess I didn't realize it until now.

Ziarre wrote:No, this is the replacement for the agi/str buff. As far as I know the heal is still there.

It's a good thing I came here and read. When I saw the changes, I thought it was replacing the SB heal. I was about to get all sorts of unhappy.

Well, if its just the replacement of the agi/str buff, it's not really a big deal to me. XD Though, it depends on how good Mastery is going to be in MoP.

At the moment, Mastery is fairly tasty for BM on live. No idea in Mists, since beta = numbers get tweaked constantly.

Ziarre wrote:At the moment, Mastery is fairly tasty for BM on live. No idea in Mists, since beta = numbers get tweaked constantly.

On live, Mastery is still #3 in the crit/haste/mastery ranking, but it is much closer than it was in FL. Hopefully it won't be way behind like it was in FL.

Mastery and Haste are pretty much even with each other right now on live. For BM at least. MM and SV have plateaus you need to be aware of. Even so, once you get the T13 2piece bonus Haste gets devalued making Mastery more attractive for all specs.

Sesamee wrote:Mastery and Haste are pretty much even with each other right now on live. For BM at least. MM and SV have plateaus you need to be aware of. Even so, once you get the T13 2piece bonus Haste gets devalued making Mastery more attractive for all specs.

Yeah, it's close, but I also assume given the special case of mastery that Blizz doesn't want it to become the strongest stat. That's why it's getting nerfed from 12 sides for prot pallies in beta... (and I was gonna start tanking again, guess not on my pally...)

Could be! Blizz introduced Mastery as a dial that can be easily turned up or down depending on whether they want to nerf or buff a class. The fact that it's better for some classes then others at a given time is working as intended, I'm sure.