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Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:09 pm
by WerebearGuy
Oh, I can never remember with these goofy fantasy names. Well, it's still a bird and birds are literal demons anyway, so I still hold my contempt towards the bird!

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:06 am
by Maizou
Hopefully if it's a raid drop, it's not locked to mythic only. Just a drop from Fyrakk.

Or, have it be a quest that the mount drops when being spawned, similar to the Shadowlands Pre-Order Mount Quest. So any hunter in the vicinity of the mount being mounted can loot the item or such.

Locking a pet behind a mythic raid would be devastating. They got feedback about locking Blood Beasts behind Heroic Raids, and they relented to the feedback, (as well as because of the glitch people abused), so hopefully they remember that feedback.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:41 am
by worgpower
I checked yesterday night, to many people that would be disappointed, the bear heart still gives stag thorns, I also found out something strange about Argyr, on some days, it’s named Argyr and some days it’s named Wandering Dreamstag. I also researched some bears, and I think Astera comes from the displaced bristlebruin, I predict the dark one would become black, the autumn brown becomes brown, and green one becomes green. Once that heart gets fixed, I’ll test it on that NPC

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:12 am
by Boven
Talihawk wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:21 pm Oh dear. I hope it doesn't end up overly rng to get. I'd like a quest line like what Gara gave us. But if it's like the dang meat for the alien cats I'm gunna be so bummed out. Sounds kind of like the Ottuk, that'd be okay I guess.
From the text, it kind of looks like it could be locked behind rep.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:03 pm
by PorrasouxRex
Could just make the Cinder of Companionship for a new Phoenix family instead of a drop for a phoenix-like spirit beast.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:17 am
by Aroim
worgpower wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:41 am I checked yesterday night, to many people that would be disappointed, the bear heart still gives stag thorns, I also found out something strange about Argyr, on some days, it’s named Argyr and some days it’s named Wandering Dreamstag. I also researched some bears, and I think Astera comes from the displaced bristlebruin, I predict the dark one would become black, the autumn brown becomes brown, and green one becomes green. Once that heart gets fixed, I’ll test it on that NPC
Argyr is without the Dagger just the Wandering Dreamstag
As soon as you carry the respective dagger with you, the NPCs change
And yes, the Displaced Bristlebruin is at the top of my list, I already mentioned that he is probably the one who will change to Astera ^^

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:28 am
by worgpower
Aroim wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:17 am
worgpower wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:41 am I checked yesterday night, to many people that would be disappointed, the bear heart still gives stag thorns, I also found out something strange about Argyr, on some days, it’s named Argyr and some days it’s named Wandering Dreamstag. I also researched some bears, and I think Astera comes from the displaced bristlebruin, I predict the dark one would become black, the autumn brown becomes brown, and green one becomes green. Once that heart gets fixed, I’ll test it on that NPC
Argyr is without the Dagger just the Wandering Dreamstag
As soon as you carry the respective dagger with you, the NPCs change
And yes, the Displaced Bristlebruin is at the top of my list, I already mentioned that he is probably the one who will change to Astera ^^
I guess that makes sense, it makes the secret that more special, displaced bruins are untameable is why we speculated they’re astera, I hope that bug fixes so I can test it soon, the thorny collection must be completed

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:52 am
by Aroim
It's pretty clever to replace the npcs as soon as you have the necessary item ^^
Exactly the fact that it is untamable, alone and the only npc with this name as far as I could see and of course because it can spawn in 3 colors :D
I hope that it will be fixed in the next build D:

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:50 pm
by Wain
Yeah, I noticed its name is different if you're holding the knife. The NPC never changes (it has the same ID), but its name is different to you if you're holding the ritual item.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:53 pm
by Wain
Question: can anyone gain renown with the new Dream Wardens faction? Mine stays at 0.

I gain renown points, but as soon as it reaches the end of the 0 rank, it goes back to the start.

If the item to tame Nah'qi is gained through renown then we can't test it 😣

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:29 pm
by worgpower
I wish new families were created for some of these cool flaming creatures, DF was very lackluster when it came to hunter pet families, a flaming bird or beast family would of been great, families like birds of prey are way too big in my honest opinion

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:24 pm
by Wain
Off-topic, but this is the most read thread and this is related to new looks.

To help you find the look you want, all family guides on Petopia now have a model index.

I've been meaning to add this for ages. An index wasn't so important in the old days, but the huge number of models have really blown out the page sizes now, and make it so much harder to navigate family pages without one.

Please gimme any feedback, if you find bugs or have problems with usability.

Examples:

catfamilyindex.png
catfamilyindex.png (48.75 KiB) Viewed 18495 times
sbfamilyindex.png
sbfamilyindex.png (69.78 KiB) Viewed 18495 times
bopfamilyindex.png
bopfamilyindex.png (72.85 KiB) Viewed 18495 times

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:02 am
by Valnaaros
It looks great, Wain! Excellent job! :)

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:21 am
by worgpower
Wow that’s amazing!

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:46 am
by Wain
Thanks for your comments! 😊

I should add that the default thumb for each model is picked automatically, from the first available look in the database, with priority given to a tameable look (as there are way too many for me to define each one manually). BUT, I can also set it to be a specific one, which I may do in some cases, especially if one look is more iconic or easier to see as a small thumb. I just haven't, yet.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am
by WerebearGuy
How do you get it to even look like that? I just get a vertical column like this. What you posted looks excellent, but I can't seem to find where that even is. I'm in Firefox on build 118.0.1 (64-bit), if that's contributing.
EDIT: The attachment is only for coursers, but it's like that on every page for me.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:38 am
by Aroim
WerebearGuy wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am How do you get it to even look like that? I just get a vertical column like this. What you posted looks excellent, but I can't seem to find where that even is. I'm in Firefox on build 118.0.1 (64-bit), if that's contributing.
EDIT: The attachment is only for coursers, but it's like that on every page for me.
I use Firefox too with build 118.0.1 (64-Bit) and it works fine for me
So you can probably rule that out :/

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:01 am
by Wain
WerebearGuy wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am How do you get it to even look like that? I just get a vertical column like this. What you posted looks excellent, but I can't seem to find where that even is. I'm in Firefox on build 118.0.1 (64-bit), if that's contributing.
EDIT: The attachment is only for coursers, but it's like that on every page for me.
Oh, that sounds like your css (the instructions that tell your browser how to lay out and colour the page) is cached and old. Like, from before I added the new css for the index.

Try hitting ctrl-shft-r and see if that fixes it :) That's a forced reload.

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:10 am
by worgpower
WerebearGuy wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am How do you get it to even look like that? I just get a vertical column like this. What you posted looks excellent, but I can't seem to find where that even is. I'm in Firefox on build 118.0.1 (64-bit), if that's contributing.
EDIT: The attachment is only for coursers, but it's like that on every page for me.
It also looks like that for me, maybe it’s either cuz I’m using google chrome, or it’s because I use a mobile device 90% of my time here

Re: 10.2 Guardians of the Dream: Beasts Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:38 am
by Zetsoban
This looks great Wain, very nice for browsing those larger families!

I do have a suggestion: is it possible to add a return to top of page button somewhere, so you scroll back to the index with one click?
Floating button or maybe just as the word "index" at the right end of the title of a model header?

I noticed that when you click a model listing and want to browse further, you immediately have to scroll like before. I'd imagine with a return to top button browsing would be a breeze :)