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Mania wrote:I have such a crush on Sylvanas. Her and Koltira Deathweaver

Mania wrote: Anyway! Ideally Sylvanas would recruit living people who wanted to be raised after their death into a type of earthly immortality. I suspect that she would be just as hated if she did, though, and her people would still die off. She's in a tough spot ... but nothing really justifies raising unwilling dead.

Anansi wrote:

Nevar wrote:I despise her - There is NO difference between her and the Lich King now - NONE what so ever, she is damning souls to an existence they do not choose simply because she needs numbers, that is by NO means right. Shes a banshee they specialize in controlling people - shes a kingpin she wants an army and she'll have it. Her people may have an honor but her last shred fell when she died I believe she has none now and very few things can change my view of her.

There is a big difference between Sylvanas and the Lich King. The Lich King raised legions of undead as mindless Scourge, under his total command and bent utterly to his will. He used those Scourge as meat grinder fodder troops for mass destruction in a plan to over-run Azeroth.

Sylvanas has found control of that power, but is using it to essentially mimic procreation amongst the Forsaken. She is not raising massive armies with a mind bent to global domination and annihilation. Sylvanas is very keenly aware of the powers of the Lich King and the implications thereof, and she is far too shrewd to let history repeat itself. And as she says in that exchange, she serves the Horde. She does not want an army, she wants the Forsaken to endure, there's a big difference (unless you think people have children specifically to become soldiers in an army) between the two. The Forsaken have full control of their wills and have always been free to do as they please. Very few Forsaken have expressed regret at being what they are, only for how they are perceived. You cannot say she is damning anyone, as when a being dies, they do not choose what happens to them. Theologically speaking, they choose while alive, not after death.

Now, what forces will be put upon her, both from without and within to abuse that power remain to be seen. Will Garrosh consider this power Sylvanas controls an army-maker? Will those from her own faction attempt to apply pressure to bend her to their desires? Will she fight a battle with herself? All this remains to be seen and there are many possible outcomes.

Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I have...no idea about abominations like Stitches. I'd assume not, since they are literally just a bunch of body parts sewn together and made animate, but an even scarier idea is that it's a conglomoration of souls in one rotting, cobbled together body.

"Thaddius, built from the flesh of women and children, it is said that their souls are fused together - eternally bound within that foul prison of flesh."

Vephriel wrote:This is slightly off-topic/sort of on-topic, but mostly this thread just made me remember this.

In Brill there's one quest that really got to me when I first created an Undead character and was running through there. An NPC named Gretchen starts a quest called The Chill of Death. She basically tells you that she can feel her hands stiffening from the cold and her mind slowly deteriorating from the plague. All she wants is for you to get her materials so that she can sew a blanket to keep her warm enough to continue sewing body bags for the fallen Forsaken soldiers.

It was just so touching and saddening. Here she is falling apart and soon to lose herself completely, but she's so dedicated to Sylvanas and to her fellow undead that she just wants to be useful and keep doing her part in the war.