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BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:53 am
by Adam-Savage
I was bored last night on the PTR and I started attacking some NPC'S in WG. I was pretty shocked to see how hard the pets are still hitting like a truck. I thought a 20k crit was crazy. I looked in my combat logg and it showed a 40k crit!

Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:31 am
by ummeiko
Yeah, I was exploring around on beta and they seem to have un-nerfed Kill Command, as well as fixed a lot of the bugs where certain pets weren't casting their focus dumps. Haven't seen a 40k myself, but it's pretty crazy.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:34 am
by Adam-Savage
ummeiko wrote:Yeah, I was exploring around on beta and they seem to have un-nerfed Kill Command, as well as fixed a lot of the bugs where certain pets weren't casting their focus dumps. Haven't seen a 40k myself, but it's pretty crazy.
I had kill command and Beastial wrath up at the same time. I could of had other procs that went off at the same time as well. Either way though..40k on an elite! I LOL when someone trys and fails to gank me in a pvp zone. The pet just lays waist to them.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:02 am
by Lisaara
I'm pretty sure that wont last. Numbers are still getting tweaked. Still thats a nice touch.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:06 am
by Adam-Savage
Taluwen wrote:I'm pretty sure that wont last. Numbers are still getting tweaked. Still thats a nice touch.
I don't expect them to. Mind you that was a freak crit. The pet is doing 5k average per attack. So i'm enjoying it while I can.

Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:14 am
by Lisaara
AdamSavage wrote:Taluwen wrote:I'm pretty sure that wont last. Numbers are still getting tweaked. Still thats a nice touch.
I don't expect them to. Mind you that was a freak crit. The pet is doing 5k average per attack. So i'm enjoying it while I can.

XD I would too! You'd one shot someone with a crit like that! My druid. She's jealous. XD
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:21 am
by Knobhead
Taluwen wrote:AdamSavage wrote:Taluwen wrote:I'm pretty sure that wont last. Numbers are still getting tweaked. Still thats a nice touch.
I don't expect them to. Mind you that was a freak crit. The pet is doing 5k average per attack. So i'm enjoying it while I can.

XD I would too! You'd one shot someone with a crit like that! My druid. She's jealous. XD
No, you'd barely remove 50% of a player's health with that crit.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:35 am
by Lisaara
Knobhead wrote:Taluwen wrote:AdamSavage wrote:
I don't expect them to. Mind you that was a freak crit. The pet is doing 5k average per attack. So i'm enjoying it while I can.

XD I would too! You'd one shot someone with a crit like that! My druid. She's jealous. XD
No, you'd barely remove 50% of a player's health with that crit.
My druid, feral cat, only has 20k health. If something crits me for 40k, I'm kinda dead and overkilled.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:14 am
by Tahlian
And that's not wearing Cataclysm gear, is it? That's a 40K crit on BETA...where tanks have 100K health or more.
And as AdamSavage noted...that's a crit under the conditions of BM's 10-second buff.
EDIT: Okay, I misread. It's a PTR crit. Forgive me on that point. But still...the point stands. It's not exactly difficult to tell when a hunter and pet are under the effects of BW/TBW, is it?
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:17 am
by Lisaara
Tahlian wrote:And that's not wearing Cataclysm gear, is it? That's a 40K crit on BETA...where tanks have 100K health or more.
And as AdamSavage noted...that's a crit under the conditions of BM's 10-second buff.
EDIT: Okay, I misread. It's a PTR crit. Forgive me on that point. But still...the point stands. It's not exactly difficult to tell when a hunter and pet are under the effects of BW/TBW, is it?
Yeah thats PTR. XD No biggie. Was just sayin my druid would've been roflstomped. XD
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:16 pm
by Adam-Savage
Yah my hunter only has 30k health on ptr and that's with full ICC 10/25 man normal gear with full T10. Little to no difference with PVP gear on for health.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:03 pm
by Lisaara
AdamSavage wrote:Yah my hunter only has 30k health on ptr and that's with full ICC 10/25 man normal gear with full T10. Little to no difference with PVP gear on for health.
I can see this now in the headlines. "Hunter get roflstomped by his own pet!"
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:14 pm
by Coldfire989
AdamSavage wrote:Yah my hunter only has 30k health on ptr and that's with full ICC 10/25 man normal gear with full T10. Little to no difference with PVP gear on for health.
But that is the PTR at lvl 80 and your stats have not dropped like they will once you hit 81 and on. Plus Hunters at lvl 85 in Heroic 5 mans blues have 90k plus health and tanks have 150k plus health. Believe it or not it used to hit for more it is at 63% of RAP now it was once at 73% or so.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by Palladiamorsdeus
Yea, it's way down on Beta. I think it's a little low, but just a little. It's starting to feel good right now, EXCEPT for Kill Command, which feels a little high.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:19 pm
by Coldfire989
Remember too that when they raised KCs dmg they cut pets bite/claw/smack in half all of which were hitting pretty hard themselves when KC was hitting like a noodle.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:21 pm
by Palladiamorsdeus
Yeah, that just got reversed. *Laughs* The probably need to bump up the pet attack numbers by a wee bit, and lower KC by a wee bit. Not that I am complaining about having my high criticals off of KC back! But it's hitting a good deal harder then kill shot at the moment...
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:51 pm
by zedxrgal
On the PTR yesterday I was caught in a pvp in Wintergrasp (?) and decided to go ahead and join. I'm a horrible pvp-er but wanted to really test the new talents on something other then normal npc mobs. Needless to say I slaughtered a lot of Horde. Alliance one the battle and I had honor kills left and right. I used kill command and BW often and didn't one time pay attention to how much they were criting for. I'll have to try it again today.
FYI - For me yesterday Skoll bugged in the Wintergrasp pvp play and I had to dismiss and call stable and get a new pet (chose my devilsaur) just to keep fighting. I have to say, and this probably doesn't belong in this thread, that it's really annoying the new system when in pvp combat like that and you're having to take time to dismiss, call and get rolling again. I actually died. Lame! I disliked dieing because my pet wouldn't work in that area. /end rant on that.
I'll check my crit today and see what mine are hitting for. I am NOT in ICC 10/25 gear.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:57 am
by Slickrock
Remember, talking about 40k crits now is going to give the wrong impression, when the beta numbers have been adjusted quite a bit...
40k crits are not there.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:00 am
by Lisaara
Slickrock wrote:Remember, talking about 40k crits now is going to give the wrong impression, when the beta numbers have been adjusted quite a bit...
40k crits are not there.
How will that give the wrong impression? I'm sure everyone here knows that won't last, which was stated before.
Re: BM pets still hitting like a truck.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:07 am
by Slickrock
Taluwen wrote:Slickrock wrote:Remember, talking about 40k crits now is going to give the wrong impression, when the beta numbers have been adjusted quite a bit...
40k crits are not there.
How will that give the wrong impression? I'm sure everyone here knows that won't last, which was stated before.
Yes, let's shout from the rooftops that BM pets are still doing 40k crits, and need further nerfing, when it's already been changed. That's the point.