The Undead being renamed ?

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The Undead being renamed ?

Unread post by AdamSavage » Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:43 am

I noticed this on the Mist of Pandaria site.

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I believe if you can believe out of nothing an explosion (big bang) happened then how far fetched can god be?

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Re: The Undead being renamed ?

Unread post by Vephriel » Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:44 am

Undead and Forsaken have always been interchangeable. They're referred to as both quite often.

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Unread post by AdamSavage » Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:48 am

Hmm. That I didn't know..
I believe if you can believe out of nothing an explosion (big bang) happened then how far fetched can god be?

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Unread post by Lisaara » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:25 am

Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.

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Unread post by AdamSavage » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:26 am

Jessibelle wrote:Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.
Well they say you learn something new everyday.
I believe if you can believe out of nothing an explosion (big bang) happened then how far fetched can god be?

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Unread post by Lisaara » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:39 am

AdamSavage wrote:
Jessibelle wrote:Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.
Well they say you learn something new everyday.
Of course! :3

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Unread post by Azunara » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:26 am

Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

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Unread post by Shade » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:27 am

Azunara wrote:Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks :(

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Unread post by Sesamee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:27 pm

Shade wrote:
Azunara wrote:Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks :(
Probably just doesn't fit with the lore of the races. Goblins being greedy immoral little things and warewolves being evil shapshifting monsters? It's hard to reconcile those races with a monk who's learned her skills from the peaceful teddy bears...I mean Pandaren. I'll take Goblins and Worgens over teddy bears anyday though!

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Unread post by Azunara » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:37 pm

Sesamee wrote:
Shade wrote:
Azunara wrote:Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks :(
Probably just doesn't fit with the lore of the races. Goblins being greedy immoral little things and warewolves being evil shapshifting monsters? It's hard to reconcile those races with a monk who's learned her skills from the peaceful teddy bears...I mean Pandaren. I'll take Goblins and Worgens over teddy bears anyday though!
I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.

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Unread post by Rikaku » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:46 pm

I can see Worgen being monks quite honestly, but Gnomes, Blood Elves, and Trolls? No I can't see those being Monks at all.


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Unread post by Holgarr » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:15 pm

Worgen and Goblins have wholly separate startzones from other races whose events all took place long before the Pandaren were revealed. Who would train them? This also explains why there are no Pandaren DKs.
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Unread post by Sesamee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:53 pm

Azunara wrote:
I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.
They are probably going to use the same reasoning that allows the undead and trolls to be priests.

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Unread post by Drayk » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:26 pm

Sesamee wrote:
Azunara wrote:
I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.
They are probably going to use the same reasoning that allows the undead and trolls to be priests.
Undead use the Shadow faith to heal and Trolls gain their ability from their Loas. I'm not sure how that lends itself to Monks...it seems like Monks do use "dark chi" to some extent but I'm not sure how Loas work with Chi.

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Re: The Undead being renamed ?

Unread post by Sesamee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:43 pm

Undead monks will probably use their dark chi to tap into the shadow power they use to heal or fight or whatever. IDK, it doesnt seem that much of a stretch to me.

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Unread post by Sigrah » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:58 pm

I can easily see most of the races currently listed as being able to be monks. The only one that raises my eyebrow would be Gnomes. I just have a hard time seeing a race of tiny obsessed technophiles having the desire to take up that kind of discipline, but honestly, I don't care all that much.

By the way, did anyone notice that "Death Knight" was absent as a choice for Pandarens? I thought that was interesting in and of itself. I guess we won't have to worry about a Panda with glowing blue eyes staring darkly at everyone.

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Unread post by Lisaara » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:02 pm

Sigrah wrote:I can easily see most of the races currently listed as being able to be monks. The only one that raises my eyebrow would be Gnomes. I just have a hard time seeing a race of tiny obsessed technophiles having the desire to take up that kind of discipline, but honestly, I don't care all that much.

By the way, did anyone notice that "Death Knight" was absent as a choice for Pandarens? I thought that was interesting in and of itself. I guess we won't have to worry about a Panda with glowing blue eyes staring darkly at everyone.
Arthas never knew of the Pandarens so there would be know way for him to raise a Pandaren DK. Just a little quick lore lesson. X3

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Unread post by Cryptography » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:40 am

Wykea wrote:Worgen and Goblins have wholly separate startzones from other races whose events all took place long before the Pandaren were revealed. Who would train them? This also explains why there are no Pandaren DKs.

This.

Not so much for lore reasons, but for the ammount of extra work it would require to add in monk-specific stuff in the starter zones.

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Unread post by Zuilu » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:16 am

Forsaken refers to the faction of undead that Sylvanas rules over, Undead would just refer to anything like..banshee, ghoul, zombie, death knight, abomination, wraith, etc. Any reanimated corpse/spirit. So Forsaken has always been a legitimate term ^^

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Unread post by Tsuki » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:46 pm

Forsaken monk = human monk who died.
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