Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by zedxrgal » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:51 pm

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Vephriel wrote:Does anyone have images/gifs of the original hyena posture? It's been so long I can hardly picture it anymore. I've never really minded the hunch back myself - I understand it's not very realistic, but there's something cartoonishly stylized in it that I've never minded.
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If we need more I can always just hop onto Elysium and take a few screenies there. Assuming it hasn't fallen prey to Blizzard's legal team, of course.
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I am hoping MAYBE if they brighten the colours truer to the old models my opinion of the hyenas will change. My tauren girl has had Snort since 2004! Damn I miss that old vanilla posture. :(

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Bluefire » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:07 am

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Bluefire wrote:Loving all the updates to the old pets but I have to say I am super disappointed in the new White windserpent. They went from a stunning pure white with gorgeous purple and blue highlights to a dull brown with cream, beige, and muddy blue highlights, I really feel they took that one in the wrong direction color wise.
I don't believe a white wind serpent skin has been produced yet. I'm pretty sure I know the one you're referring to, but fortunately it's not named 'white'. It's actually named 'sidewinder' and seems to be a new colour. There are actually four new colours that are named after real world snakes: viper (green), sidewinder (pinkish beige), moccasin (very dark brown), and one I haven't worked out the name for yet, but is dark brown with diamond patterns that look very much like a rattlesnake (I've tried so many combinations of rattlesnake names but to no avail).

It's odd that they produced all those but no white. I'd be angry if they try to sub that beige one in for white but hopefully they won't. Then again, none of them have retained the shine of the originals. :(
I dearly hope so! The White and all Red windserpents have always been my favorites and I'd hate to see the White one not have justice done by it.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Wain » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:04 am

By the way, unlike the old windserpent skins, the new ones have body and wings in a single file. This makes me suspect the red one with orange wings will be gone, since it was a combo of different-coloured wing and body skin files.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:29 pm

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Rawr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 pm

Not sure if anyone posted this or not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UiHxGi2x4 the gorilla looks nice. :mrgreen:

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by SlickrockGhost » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:15 pm

I know there's a lot of angst over hyena colors... but those old models were soo bad. I'll gladly tame one in BfA, while I currently don't have one in my stable. Same for the gorillas.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Vephriel » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:24 pm

Now that Wain's updated the site with BfA models it's easier to make direct comparisons, and I find I'm really missing some of the colour choices of Vanilla models...

The new crystal spider doesn't look like ice anymore, but rather dull, cloudy glass. :( What happened to those bright blue facets and cyan legs? It was so crystalline and beautiful, the new one doesn't have the same appeal to me.
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I don't think there's anything that can really be done at this point, I just find myself disagreeing with a lot of the artistic decisions in model updates, particularly when it comes to colour hues, saturation, and contrast. Many of them feel rather washed out and dull.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Qraljar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:36 pm

Vephriel wrote:Now that Wain's updated the site with BfA models it's easier to make direct comparisons, and I find I'm really missing some of the colour choices of Vanilla models...

The new crystal spider doesn't look like ice anymore, but rather dull, cloudy glass. :( What happened to those bright blue facets and cyan legs? It was so crystalline and beautiful, the new one doesn't have the same appeal to me.
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I don't think there's anything that can really be done at this point, I just find myself disagreeing with a lot of the artistic decisions in model updates, particularly when it comes to colour hues, saturation, and contrast. Many of them feel rather washed out and dull.
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How's this, color-wise? I can't really help, texture-wise.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Vephriel » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:38 pm

See, that already looks better to me. And it's frustrating to know that they probably aren't going to go in and alter anything now. I suppose that's pessimistic of me but, I'm not holding out a lot of hope for tweaks. :(

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Qraljar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Vephriel wrote:See, that already looks better to me. And it's frustrating to know that they probably aren't going to go in and alter anything now. I suppose that's pessimistic of me but, I'm not holding out a lot of hope for tweaks. :(
Yeah, let's just hold out hope, I suppose.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:41 pm

That alteration does look better. But I second Veph in that I doubt Blizz is going to go through every new pet model and tweak them; let alone add a rare for every old skin variant. :\

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:35 pm

Loving these new models for the Harvest Golems. Blizz is really trying to get all models up-to-date :)

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Sukurachi » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 pm

Rawr wrote:Not sure if anyone posted this or not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UiHxGi2x4 the gorilla looks nice. :mrgreen:
ooo, those raptors are gorgeous!
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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Rozzana » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:58 am

I actually like most of the changes for the spider. The colors are admittedly drab, but it does come more off as crystal than before. Even the eyes are little gems! I never even noticed the old model lacked eyes :lol:

I wonder if some mobs have been purposefully made plainer, to save detailed renditions for rare/unique versions.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:32 pm

I agree. Whilst I would like if the coloring was closer to the original, I prefer the new model overall. The old one is really showing its age.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Rozzana » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Something I did notice while looking through all the new and updated models is that there seems to be a split in art direction. Some creatures come off more realistic and beautiful because of it, while others are very cartoony/bulky looking.
This can be noticed with even battle-pets. Ex: The new prairie dog looks wonderful. Our updated rabbit is kinda frightening :lol:

I can assume some of this occurred to preserve the old aesthetic, but some of them are coming out goofy due to the huge contrast in styles. I hope they're able to become more cohesive, but I can't help but notice that sometimes it's very obvious which team worked on which set of models :lol: It's not a real problem, just something I noticed and probably isn't intended to be the case

Although can I gush about how wonderful the new crab models/colors are? They're so vibrant and lively while not coming off as garish. I absolutely adore this and thank the artists responsible to the high heavens :D

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:51 pm

Here is an interesting video from Bellular concerning the model updates and how things have changed since Vanilla: https://youtu.be/4mSI6upU_V0

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Quiv » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:47 am

For whatever reason, King Mukla shows in Wowhead as changed. Today he uses old dark gray gorilla model, but wowhead bfa shows new black model instead of the expected steel grey. *shrug*

http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=1559/king-mu ... iewer:10+0

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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Valnaaros » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 am

Quiv wrote:For whatever reason, King Mukla shows in Wowhead as changed. Today he uses old dark gray gorilla model, but wowhead bfa shows new black model instead of the expected steel grey. *shrug*

http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=1559/king-mu ... iewer:10+0
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Re: Battle for Azeroth Old World Creature model updates

Unread post by Iowawolf » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:15 pm

Is it just me or from looking through the pets they all seem to be drawn by children I mean come on old world hyenas look mean and ready to snap your head off while new ones want to cuddle with you and those spiders haha old world again look like they want to poison you and are drawn very well with these new ones drawn for children.

I am no artist and don't claim to be one but can't help and look at those new models and gag none are going into my stable I just hope they keep some old world around for those who want a pet that is not for kids.
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