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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#121 Unread post by Valnaaros » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:01 pm

If what he tells you in the Vol'jin questline in 8.1, he has nothing to do with Vol'jin's death or Sylvanas being chosen as Warchief. Further, he hates her for disturbing the balance between life and death/undeath. That doesn't mean that he isn't up to something else; most likely he is, but I don't think he has anything to do with what Sylvanas is doing.

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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#122 Unread post by Wain » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:42 pm

Yeah, if anything I imagine he's planning to deal with her, but I don't think he's still a good person. It seems like the original Bolvar personality is mostly gone, though I'm guessing the whole DK story involving the red dragon eggs *was* personal, and part of him now hates them for getting him to where he is.
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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#123 Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:56 pm

In the cinematic released today, it is learned that Saurfang believes that Sylvanas will destroy the Horde and everything on Azeroth. He also didn't kill Anduin because he believed that he could stop Sylvanas. Anduin says he can't, but not alone. He then left and didn't close the cell door. He allowed Saurfang to escape.

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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#124 Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:19 pm

Sylvanas is wielding Xal'atath in 8.2.

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#125 Unread post by Setanta » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:36 pm

All I know is that we better not get some mechanical Mekkatorque out of this. No desire for Magni part deux, and would rather have just killed off that awful creature in the 8.1 raid than what ended up happening to him.

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#126 Unread post by Valnaaros » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:38 pm

Either they are going to make him into a Mechagnome and make him king of both Gnome races (since we are killing the Mechagnome king in 8.2), or we need the Mechagnome's advanced tech in order to unfreeze him. Jaina and Anduin both say that the technology that has frozen him is beyond anything that the Alliance has.
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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#127 Unread post by Setanta » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:41 pm

Valnaaros wrote:Either they are going to make him into a Mechagnome and make him king of both Gnome races (since we are killing the Mechagnome king in 8.2), or we need the Mechagnome's advantaged tech in order to unfreeze him. Jaina and Anduin both say that the technology that has frozen him is beyond anything that the Alliance has.

Yeah, I'd rather just to have killed him in 8.1. In a perfect world, he and Gallywix would have just blown each other up in the raid and saved everyone else the trouble of even having them as NPCs.

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#128 Unread post by Valnaaros » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:37 pm

Going by a answer to a question asked by Metzen in the Q&A, Thrall will be coming back and Saurfang might be pushing for him to be Warchief again.

Sylvanas is also going to continue to do terrible things. Will be far worse than Garrosh.

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#129 Unread post by cowmuflage » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:09 pm

Because of course they are going to do that with her >.>

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#130 Unread post by Sukurachi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:31 pm

cowmuflage wrote:Because of course they are going to do that with her >.>
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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#131 Unread post by Shinryu Masaki » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:26 pm

Valnaaros wrote:Sylvanas is wielding Xal'atath in 8.2.
She's wielding the prison-dagger, not Xal'atath, as at that point in the story line Xal isn't in the dagger anymore since our character will help in releasing her from it. She looks like a void elf female btw.

My guess is that somewhere down the line Sylvanas could use the dagger to syphon N'Zoth into it. Would she do that for good or for bad I can't say, but since Alex hinted that she would think that Garrosh was an amateur, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to use the dagger with a trapped N'Zoth in it to sow more destruction on Azeroth.
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Re: 8.1 Story - Spoilers

#132 Unread post by Valnaaros » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:42 pm

Shinryu Masaki wrote:
Valnaaros wrote:Sylvanas is wielding Xal'atath in 8.2.
She's wielding the prison-dagger, not Xal'atath, as at that point in the story line Xal isn't in the dagger anymore since our character will help in releasing her from it. She looks like a void elf female btw.

My guess is that somewhere down the line Sylvanas could use the dagger to syphon N'Zoth into it. Would she do that for good or for bad I can't say, but since Alex hinted that she would think that Garrosh was an amateur, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to use the dagger with a trapped N'Zoth in it to sow more destruction on Azeroth.
I'm aware of both :) Xal'atath is the name of the dagger and Xal is the name of the VE/Void Being.

Pretty good chance of that, yeah. I very much doubt that they're going to try and redeem Sylvanas after all she has done/will do, and it would go over terribly if they did try.

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#133 Unread post by cowmuflage » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:04 pm

I'm pretty sure it would go over terribly if we have to kill her also. More so if they make it cannon that the Alliance kills her.

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#134 Unread post by Silivren » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:53 pm

If shes gunna be worse than Garrosh and we had to kill him.. we'll have to kill her or she's gunna be imprisoned for literally FOREVER. Which, with the way shes written.. needs to happen she's committed war crimes and if shes dabbling with old god stuff.. yeah it's time to get rid of that. I mean she'll prob def die but it will prob def be both factions that kill her, the alliance do deserve a fair shot since she tried to extinct a whole race of people and burned their home to the ground so...

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#135 Unread post by cowmuflage » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:14 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of lore when I said that. Lore wise if she ahs to die it really should be by Horde hands.

Personally if she does die I'd like it via a cut scene like Garrosh.

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#136 Unread post by Setanta » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:27 am

Can't trust Alliance to kill her, they'd just round up all the Forsaken and throw them in Interrment Camps.

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#137 Unread post by Castile » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:52 pm

Setanta wrote:Can't trust Alliance to kill her, they'd just round up all the Forsaken and throw them in Interrment Camps.
What? Why would Anduin do that after trying to reunite them with their families?? Even Genn felt sorry for them. My night elf will gladly kill her and let one of the council be in charge of the forsaken.

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#138 Unread post by Valnaaros » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:33 pm

What? Why would Anduin do that after trying to reunite them with their families?? Even Genn felt sorry for them. My night elf will gladly kill her and let one of the council be in charge of the forsaken.
This. Besides, it has been made clear that the main goal of the Alliance is to remove Sylvanas from power - not wipe out the entire Horde.

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#139 Unread post by Wain » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:48 pm

I think the best way to "kill" Sylvanas without killing her would be to cure her of her undeath: through some powerful one-off magic make her a regular, living high elf again. She'd lose all her banshee power, lose the devotion of her people, become an outcast, and probably be put into shock, without actually killing her.
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#140 Unread post by cowmuflage » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:51 pm

That is a pretty good idea honestly.

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