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Speaking of that, I am running around and using beast lore on EVERY undead enemy. Wowhead is clearly not the best resource when finding fun things (either with incorrect info like my plant hydras or just by not having locations), and I am currently in Icecrown Citadel on PTR. If I find something tameable that clearly shouldn't be, I'll be laughing. You never know with ptr after all.

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I can imagine frost wyrms being tameable, I would die to have those more than any other undead, but we already got cloud serpents which are technically dragons, and I still would love to tame non intelligent dragonkin, and I have a feeling that frost wyrms are just used as a weapon to freeze enemies in place, but hey, even though I would beg for now, we got enough undead for now, except the horses, I think there is no reason to leave out skeletal horses cuz they are good coursers and are perfect for the family
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worgpower wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 am I can imagine frost wyrms being tameable, I would die to have those more than any other undead, but we already got cloud serpents which are technically dragons, and I still would love to tame non intelligent dragonkin, and I have a feeling that frost wyrms are just used as a weapon to freeze enemies in place, but hey, even though I would beg for now, we got enough undead for now, except the horses, I think there is no reason to leave out skeletal horses cuz they are good coursers and are perfect for the family
Cloud Serpents are inspired by dragons in eastern mythology, but they are not related at all to WoW dragons. Frost Wyrms still have their intelligence and everything as they did in life, they just don't have free will. The only thing that I could ever possibly see Blizz making tamable are proto drakes, and I doubt that'll ever happen. Any dragon that has any degree of sentience will never be made tamable, unless Blizz just completely throws out the lore.
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Valnaaros wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:24 am
worgpower wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 am I can imagine frost wyrms being tameable, I would die to have those more than any other undead, but we already got cloud serpents which are technically dragons, and I still would love to tame non intelligent dragonkin, and I have a feeling that frost wyrms are just used as a weapon to freeze enemies in place, but hey, even though I would beg for now, we got enough undead for now, except the horses, I think there is no reason to leave out skeletal horses cuz they are good coursers and are perfect for the family
Cloud Serpents are inspired by dragons in eastern mythology, but they are not related at all to WoW dragons. Frost Wyrms still have their intelligence and everything as they did in life, they just don't have free will. The only thing that I could ever possibly see Blizz making tamable are proto drakes, and I doubt that'll ever happen. Any dragon that has any degree of sentience will never be made tamable, unless Blizz just completely throws out the lore.
I’ve also seen proto drakes as a dumber version of drakes, they are literally T-Rexes with wings, and I was hoping newer devilsaurs were getting modified proto drake animations, even though our fellow pterrordaxes and dread raven skeletons use modified proto drake ones, I am still hoping to tame a skeletal horse, that’s the only undead that needs to be flagged tameable, PLZ BLIZZ, don’t leave them out since this is the best xpac for their tameability
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WerebearGuy wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:10 pm Yeah, Kurken is just some weird mutant hound. It's likely with the Core Hounds because it's similar in design, but it certainly fits the hound family now more than core hound since Guarm and its ilk resemble hydras, but are considered hounds. Changing them to a hound would probably make people mad, since that'd be turning a ferocity pet into a cunning pet, and also removing a heroism/bloodlust pet without gaining anything. It wouldn't bother me since I don't care for the kurken, but I'm sure owners would be upset at their pet becoming useless. Though, they did that with the tameable Worgen way back when, so it wouldn't be surprising.
The Worgen pet was funny (I say through gritted teeth, still furious and pining for the best pet in the world) because it forced Blizzard to develop an entirely new way to deal with unintended hunter pets. At first they just tried taking away the pet's abilities so he was useless, but people kept them. They couldn't be fed, so Blizzard thought that'd get them to run away. But hunters discovered a fishing glyph that gave pets happiness whenever you fished, so people would use that to keep the pet happy and able to be kept forever. Also, while trying to do this, they also somehow bugged out the pet's size on many tames so I was walking around with a humongous Worgen that filled up the entire auction house for many clients.

Finally, they just gave up and replaced every single tamed mob of Garwal with a Frostworg ID instead.
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Dialga wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:44 pm
WerebearGuy wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:10 pm Yeah, Kurken is just some weird mutant hound. It's likely with the Core Hounds because it's similar in design, but it certainly fits the hound family now more than core hound since Guarm and its ilk resemble hydras, but are considered hounds. Changing them to a hound would probably make people mad, since that'd be turning a ferocity pet into a cunning pet, and also removing a heroism/bloodlust pet without gaining anything. It wouldn't bother me since I don't care for the kurken, but I'm sure owners would be upset at their pet becoming useless. Though, they did that with the tameable Worgen way back when, so it wouldn't be surprising.
The Worgen pet was funny (I say through gritted teeth, still furious and pining for the best pet in the world) because it forced Blizzard to develop an entirely new way to deal with unintended hunter pets. At first they just tried taking away the pet's abilities so he was useless, but people kept them. They couldn't be fed, so Blizzard thought that'd get them to run away. But hunters discovered a fishing glyph that gave pets happiness whenever you fished, so people would use that to keep the pet happy and able to be kept forever. Also, while trying to do this, they also somehow bugged out the pet's size on many tames so I was walking around with a humongous Worgen that filled up the entire auction house for many clients.

Finally, they just gave up and replaced every single tamed mob of Garwal with a Frostworg ID instead.
It was funny how Blizz let people keep the slime, but not the worgen, strange, does anyone know any players who kept a ghostly crocolisk, because it might be that no one tamed it, and I still don’t understand why the ghost croc is not tameable when the ghost hydra is, but for me, it’s still cool to see old glitched pets like the lone hunter with a knife from another player
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worgpower wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:52 pm
Dialga wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:44 pm
WerebearGuy wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:10 pm Yeah, Kurken is just some weird mutant hound. It's likely with the Core Hounds because it's similar in design, but it certainly fits the hound family now more than core hound since Guarm and its ilk resemble hydras, but are considered hounds. Changing them to a hound would probably make people mad, since that'd be turning a ferocity pet into a cunning pet, and also removing a heroism/bloodlust pet without gaining anything. It wouldn't bother me since I don't care for the kurken, but I'm sure owners would be upset at their pet becoming useless. Though, they did that with the tameable Worgen way back when, so it wouldn't be surprising.
The Worgen pet was funny (I say through gritted teeth, still furious and pining for the best pet in the world) because it forced Blizzard to develop an entirely new way to deal with unintended hunter pets. At first they just tried taking away the pet's abilities so he was useless, but people kept them. They couldn't be fed, so Blizzard thought that'd get them to run away. But hunters discovered a fishing glyph that gave pets happiness whenever you fished, so people would use that to keep the pet happy and able to be kept forever. Also, while trying to do this, they also somehow bugged out the pet's size on many tames so I was walking around with a humongous Worgen that filled up the entire auction house for many clients.

Finally, they just gave up and replaced every single tamed mob of Garwal with a Frostworg ID instead.
It was funny how Blizz let people keep the slime, but not the worgen, strange, does anyone know any players who kept a ghostly crocolisk, because it might be that no one tamed it, and I still don’t understand why the ghost croc is not tameable when the ghost hydra is, but for me, it’s still cool to see old glitched pets like the lone hunter with a knife from another player
I believe the strongest case was because Worgen were about to become the new playable race (though we didn't know that at the time, that strongly supported the rumors when they worked so hard to take it away) coupled with the fact Garwal was sentient enough to speak and the fact a lot of people were making jokes about how the first truly humanoid tame had a species name that, when spelled backwards... :roll:
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Proto drake tome reward at Exalted with Wyrmrest Accord? Basically a permission slip from the Flights. Just because they evolved from them shouldn't mean they're off-limits. Tauren can tame Oxen after-all.
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I want a soul eater, they look kinda like dragons but not, if they become tameable, I can’t wait to have my own balrog, they can be in the warp stalker family and rename to something that can fit both, and I can’t come up with a name, I believe someone came up with the name “Place Stalker” but I think the best name would be “Phase Beast”, and I’m disappointed that we can’t tame soul eaters because that’s the creature I wanted most out of all the cool creatures added in this XPAC
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Bambu wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:12 pm Proto drake tome reward at Exalted with Wyrmrest Accord? Basically a permission slip from the Flights. Just because they evolved from them shouldn't mean they're off-limits. Tauren can tame Oxen after-all.
Proto Drakes are extremely sentient, last I checked.

The Dragon Aspects were originally Proto Drakes.
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Myzou wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:40 pm
Bambu wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:12 pm Proto drake tome reward at Exalted with Wyrmrest Accord? Basically a permission slip from the Flights. Just because they evolved from them shouldn't mean they're off-limits. Tauren can tame Oxen after-all.
Proto Drakes are extremely sentient, last I checked.

The Dragon Aspects were originally Proto Drakes.
Alrighty then, I guess that we can think about that when thinking or desiring a pet proto drake, but I still want my Soul Eater, Firehawk, Phoenix, and last but not least, Aqir Worms, which can probably fit the worm family, I wonder how they are going to burrow
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As a Hunter, I am ready for all the new beasts.
I’m ready to collect on my main hunter, and keep collecting more undead with my forsaken SV that I’m keeping an undead pet theme, once prepatch comes, it’s easier to have a variety of undead pets
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Rams have been shrunk, I think this might be Blizzard's excuse to keep us from taming our Black ram, hopefully we can tame them, if we can tame gazelles, why not deer and Rams(the critter only), and sheep which can fit in gruffhorns
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worgpower wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:53 pm WoWScrnShot_090520_175015.jpg
Rams have been shrunk, I think this might be Blizzard's excuse to keep us from taming our Black ram, hopefully we can tame them, if we can tame gazelles, why not deer and Rams(the critter only), and sheep which can fit in gruffhorns
I don’t think that they did it to prevent us from taking the black ram. It is probably meant to be a critter and they shrunk it to reinforce that.

As for sheep, I honestly can’t see them being something that a Hunter would use. They are a species that both in game and irl have been raised to not be particularly intelligent and to require constant shepherding in order to really do a lot of things.
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Valnaaros wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:54 pm
worgpower wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:53 pm WoWScrnShot_090520_175015.jpg
Rams have been shrunk, I think this might be Blizzard's excuse to keep us from taming our Black ram, hopefully we can tame them, if we can tame gazelles, why not deer and Rams(the critter only), and sheep which can fit in gruffhorns
I don’t think that they did it to prevent us from taking the black ram. It is probably meant to be a critter and they shrunk it to reinforce that.

As for sheep, I honestly can’t see them being something that a Hunter would use. They are a species that both in game and irl have been raised to not be particularly intelligent and to require constant shepherding in order to really do a lot of things.
I understand now, rams aren’t also supposed to be too big, cuz rams are not even close to the size of horses irl, but I understand your point with sheep, pigs on the other hand can be hard to manage or control depending on its breed, some people keep it as pets, so I see why Blizz would allow pigs but not sheep, I feel like deer should be tameable, diseased and normal, they’re both classed as beasts and have a tooltip, I would love to walk around with an undead deer, hopefully they’ll make them tameable some day, anyone agree with me
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There is already a tamable sheep... More or less. Tekton, the mechanical.

I know, it's not exactly the same, but if you love that particular model...
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worgpower wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:39 pm
Valnaaros wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:54 pm
worgpower wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:53 pm WoWScrnShot_090520_175015.jpg
Rams have been shrunk, I think this might be Blizzard's excuse to keep us from taming our Black ram, hopefully we can tame them, if we can tame gazelles, why not deer and Rams(the critter only), and sheep which can fit in gruffhorns
I don’t think that they did it to prevent us from taking the black ram. It is probably meant to be a critter and they shrunk it to reinforce that.

As for sheep, I honestly can’t see them being something that a Hunter would use. They are a species that both in game and irl have been raised to not be particularly intelligent and to require constant shepherding in order to really do a lot of things.
I understand now, rams aren’t also supposed to be too big, cuz rams are not even close to the size of horses irl, but I understand your point with sheep, pigs on the other hand can be hard to manage or control depending on its breed, some people keep it as pets, so I see why Blizz would allow pigs but not sheep, I feel like deer should be tameable, diseased and normal, they’re both classed as beasts and have a tooltip, I would love to walk around with an undead deer, hopefully they’ll make them tameable some day, anyone agree with me
The Gazelles are literally sized up critter models. But the deer model is very old and low poly so they might desire to update them first. Then again, Blizzard absolutely RUINED rabbits imo with their model change.
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Myzou wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:40 pmProto Drakes are extremely sentient, last I checked.

The Dragon Aspects were originally Proto Drakes.
Yes, and tauren were originally cows who drank from the well of eternity if memory serves. Titan magic juice does stuff.

Sentience doesn't matter when it comes to taming a creature I thought. There's a pet in Gnomergan called "Sentient Mechanostrider" that has a full on conversation with you. Not to mention Elegon now (though, I feel that's more a parrot/answering machine sorta thing than speaking.)

I always assumed it was a mater of willingness to be tamed and if it looks like an animal.
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Bambu wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:21 am
Myzou wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:40 pmProto Drakes are extremely sentient, last I checked.

The Dragon Aspects were originally Proto Drakes.
Yes, and tauren were originally cows who drank from the well of eternity if memory serves. Titan magic juice does stuff.

Sentience doesn't matter when it comes to taming a creature I thought. There's a pet in Gnomergan called "Sentient Mechanostrider" that has a full on conversation with you. Not to mention Elegon now (though, I feel that's more a parrot/answering machine sorta thing than speaking.)

I always assumed it was a mater of willingness to be tamed and if it looks like an animal.
Well, elegon and the mechanostrider are made to serve a purpose, they are constructs, not real creatures so that’s why blizzard made them tameable
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