Nozdormu, Aspect of the Infinite?

[Ikutai]

Two sides of the story. Just find some of the in-game Scourge propaganda. It would make it seem that killing everything is the best thing ever.

You mean it's not?! And here I was paying my monthly dues to Kel'Thuzad still...

[Saturo]

Two sides of the story. Just find some of the in-game Scourge propaganda. It would make it seem that killing everything is the best thing ever.

You mean it's not?! And here I was paying my monthly dues to Kel'Thuzad still...

I stopped paying him years ago. I'm more of a "do it yourself" kind of person.

[Ikutai]

I stopped paying him years ago. I'm more of a "do it yourself" kind of person.

I can't wait for your show to come out on HGTV later this year! It is the new DIY network, afterall.

[Saturo]

I know, right! Qwe've already got four episodes filmed, we just need some more plague to wrap it all up. It's gonna' be glorious!

[rubybeam]

It does look like he'll go evil.. However, one thing doesn't make sense - if he was shown his death, then how could he hope to change it? The future is the future. He's a bronze, so he knows that the future happens no matter what you do, the future counts in all the things you try to do to stop it. That's why it's going to happen.
So why would he try to stop it?

Theres always the parallel world theory

[Chimera]

I love this thread, people are coming up with so many different ideas its an eeeeeepic read

[Lisaara]

All I can say....Blizzard has NOT confirmed anything on this so we should leave it for now that its only speculation and none of this should be taken as a fact until something solid happens.

I personally think, while he is the father of the Infinite Flight, he is not evil. The infinite flight just seemed to be an experiment gone awry.

Noone has said that Blizzard has confirmed anything. And I specifically refer to things as "I believe" and "I think", they're personal opinions.

There is no harm in speculation, and I don't believe anyone has taken any of this for fact, if they did it's due to their own logical fallacy.

I absolutely love all the views shared here.

I, too, think that Nozdormu has created his own Paradox, in by creating the infinite he's given us a reason to kill him off, which *seems* like what he's trying to do in the first place: prevent his own death.

It's all just so fascinating.

Shame about Occulus though.

Yeah but you might wanna put in big bold letters to those that arent members of the forum that this thread is merely speculation. I already had someone from my server think what you said was fact. x.x; Tis why I said what I said, so anyone reading it not from Petopia can see it's not fact, only speculation, and should be taken as such.

[Cialbi]

It does look like he'll go evil.. However, one thing doesn't make sense - if he was shown his death, then how could he hope to change it? The future is the future. He's a bronze, so he knows that the future happens no matter what you do, the future counts in all the things you try to do to stop it. That's why it's going to happen.
So why would he try to stop it?

Theres always the parallel world theory

Yeah, the problem is that with that theory, a lot of this lore doesn't make sense. Nozdormu would know that there are infinitely many possibiities of when and how he will die, the Infinite Dragonflight isn't changing much of anything because the parallel universes where a burning building in Stratholme collapses on top of Arthas, Thrall gets shot through the heart by a Durnholme guard in a watchtower, and a tree falls on Medivh in the Black Morass already exist.

[Chimera]

My concern though if its us who have to kill him-- how are we gonna kill him? He can just throw us back in time before the fight or create a different future that ends with a demise that comes a lot sooner then the previous future that was planned for us

[Azunara]

It does look like he'll go evil.. However, one thing doesn't make sense - if he was shown his death, then how could he hope to change it? The future is the future. He's a bronze, so he knows that the future happens no matter what you do, the future counts in all the things you try to do to stop it. That's why it's going to happen.
So why would he try to stop it?

Theres always the parallel world theory

Yeah, the problem is that with that theory, a lot of this lore doesn't make sense. Nozdormu would know that there are infinitely many possibiities of when and how he will die, the Infinite Dragonflight isn't changing much of anything because the parallel universes where a burning building in Stratholme collapses on top of Arthas, Thrall gets shot through the heart by a Durnholme guard in a watchtower, and a tree falls on Medivh in the Black Morass already exist.

And then, somewhere, you can hear a guard in Durnholme shout....

"BOOM! HEADSHOT!"

[Chimera]

PPPPFT !!!

[Lisaara]

Ahahahaha! Thats too funny. XD

[Cialbi]

My concern though if its us who have to kill him-- how are we gonna kill him? He can just throw us back in time before the fight or create a different future that ends with a demise that comes a lot sooner then the previous future that was planned for us

There will probably be some sort of attunement where the bronze dragonflight decides that Nozdormu needs to die, and selects some heroes (you and your raid, if you can believe it ) to ward against Nozdormu. It will be similar to how the red dragonflight enabled us to kill Malygos, except the bronze dragonflight will likely be the enablers.

[Lisaara]

My concern though if its us who have to kill him-- how are we gonna kill him? He can just throw us back in time before the fight or create a different future that ends with a demise that comes a lot sooner then the previous future that was planned for us

There will probably be some sort of attunement where the bronze dragonflight decides that Nozdormu needs to die, and selects some heroes (you and your raid, if you can believe it ) to ward against Nozdormu. It will be similar to how the red dragonflight enabled us to kill Malygos, except the bronze dragonflight will likely be the enablers.

Only problem is....Nozdormu outpowers them easily and can override them as far as altering time goes. They cant lock his powers.

[Cialbi]

I was thinking that they could somehow manage to entrap him, lure him into a situation where any of the bronze or infinite dragonflight would have their powers nullified. If the bronze can't do this to him, then maybe the red, green, and blue dragonflights could.

[Chimera]

Id love to see Ysera mess with him-- i love both of them to deeeeeath and both of them have been the guardians that have saved/initiated a few of my chars (RP) into their ranks not as dragons but as mortal-- or in nozdormu's case, immortal guardians. Ysera being an aspect of dreaming, she can manipulate and influence with illusions and it could scramble Nozdormu's mind up since he might start to lose a grasp on whats 'reality' and a dream/nightmare

[Cialbi]

I think it would be great to see other dragonflights take a more prominent role in WoW-specific events.

[Lisaara]

Ysera or Alexstrasza likely could. He's powerless in the Emerald Dream.

[Comett]

What about a Bronze Nozdormu aiding heroes in defeating an Infinite Nozdormu? I mean it's pretty trippy to get your head around but I *think* technically if you shift through time in the right way it could be possible. Of course he'd end up killing himself, though. Which would... not work. Or would it? And if Nozdormu died, what would happen to time? I believe he doesn't just watch over time, but he controls it and tweaks the strings and makes sure it all works smoothly (read it in one of the ___ of the dragon WoW books I think, was the prologue or similar). Zz.

So if Nozdormu was to die what would happen to time?

[Maladramatic]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Infinite_dragonflight has a lot of interesting stuff.