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Re: [Opposite Faction] can't have that pet!

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Dr. Rockso wrote:
Zuilu wrote:I was pretty pissed off at this point, explained to the belf that the cat had been killed, and logged over to alliance. As politely as I could, I asked the night elf why she killed the rare, while I was signalling for her to stop with various emotes. /no, /wait, etc. Her response? "Didn't want a hordie to get 'im." :|
you dint get upset huh? and as far as not wanting other factions to kill something you might want to switch games cause weather you like or not that's going happen in this game. Like i said there is no point in getting upset and or pissed off best thing you can do is move on
No, I didn't get upset over it, but yes I got agitated that she didn't listen to me when I had someone more than willing to tame it.

Please stop posting if you're only going to be rude.

And no, I don't need to 'switch games' because a handful of people are ignorant and get laughs out of other people's sadness.
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just because people dont all play the game the same way you do doesn't make ignorant and i dont see how im being rude simply by answering the questions. i would think calling people names like ignorant would be rather rude
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Dr. Rockso wrote:just because people dont all play the game the same way you do doesn't make ignorant and i dont see how im being rude simply by answering the questions. i would think calling people names like ignorant would be rather rude
Ignorant: Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.
As in, they either are unaware of the sadness/grief they're causing to other players, OR they're actually doing it to be mean.
You're looking for insults that aren't there. ;)

It became rude when you stopped answering my questions and instead just tried to prove me wrong on whether or not I was upset over something, and telling me whether or not I should be playing this game.
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@Rock: In moments like this it would probably be best to just step away from the thread, its turning into a passive aggressive argument quite quickly even though its only like a page and a quarter long, you've already spoken that its world of WARcraft, you need not continue pounding that into our skulls.

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Zuilu wrote:
Dr. Rockso wrote:just because people dont all play the game the same way you do doesn't make ignorant and i dont see how im being rude simply by answering the questions. i would think calling people names like ignorant would be rather rude
Ignorant: Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.
As in, they either are unaware of the sadness/grief they're causing to other players, OR they're actually doing it to be mean.
You're looking for insults that aren't there. ;)

It became rude when you stopped answering my questions and instead just tried to prove me wrong on whether or not I was upset over something, and telling me whether or not I should be playing this game.

or they are playing the game in a war based fashion witch doesn't make them ignorant they are just playing the game in One of the many ways it was intended for

and as far as saying you where upset you where the one that stated that you got upset in your first post on here so yea
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Saying, "It's called World of WARcraft." is a stupid reason. Just because it's called that, doesn't mean you are given rights to ruin someone's day. Just because you have a gun license, doesn't mean you're allowed to run around shooting people.

There's this thing called decency. Most people like to adopt that policy so that they can make the world a better place. Decency means you don't kill other people's pets in mid tame, no matter the faction. Hell, if you're killing the other faction, you might as well destroy the pets on your faction's. I mean, you're being a jerk either way. You're ruining another person's day. Somewhere, on the other side of the computer screen, someone just watched a person kill their pet. And that can really affect people. What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems. What if they're just some average guy who wants a pet? You've just made their day a little darker.

Essentially, by adopting the attitude of, "I can kill the other person's pet!" you're saying, "I can make people miserable because they don't have the same little avatar as I do!"
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Dr. Rockso wrote:
Zuilu wrote:
Dr. Rockso wrote:just because people dont all play the game the same way you do doesn't make ignorant and i dont see how im being rude simply by answering the questions. i would think calling people names like ignorant would be rather rude
Ignorant: Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.
As in, they either are unaware of the sadness/grief they're causing to other players, OR they're actually doing it to be mean.
You're looking for insults that aren't there. ;)

It became rude when you stopped answering my questions and instead just tried to prove me wrong on whether or not I was upset over something, and telling me whether or not I should be playing this game.

or they are playing the game in a war based fashion witch doesn't make them ignorant they are just playing the game in One of the many ways it was intended for

and as far as saying you where upset you where the one that stated that you got upset in your first post on here so yea
My patience is wearing thin, please either take the time to read my posts or STOP REPLYING, as you're talking about things that I haven't even brought up.

No, I never said I was upset, no, I never said that they are ignorant for playing a war game, I said they are ignorant TO how other players are feeling when they kill rare pets. Ignorant isn't always an insult, ignorant means you're unaware of something. Some players are unaware that they are going to make someone mad for killing a certain mob. End of discussion.
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Azunara wrote:Saying, "It's called World of WARcraft." is a stupid reason. Just because it's called that, doesn't mean you are given rights to ruin someone's day. Just because you have a gun license, doesn't mean you're allowed to run around shooting people.

There's this thing called decency. Most people like to adopt that policy so that they can make the world a better place. Decency means you don't kill other people's pets in mid tame, no matter the faction. Hell, if you're killing the other faction, you might as well destroy the pets on your faction's. I mean, you're being a jerk either way. You're ruining another person's day. Somewhere, on the other side of the computer screen, someone just watched a person kill their pet. And that can really affect people. What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems. What if they're just some average guy who wants a pet? You've just made their day a little darker.

Essentially, by adopting the attitude of, "I can kill the other person's pet!" you're saying, "I can make people miserable because they don't have the same little avatar as I do!"
Thank you, you put it in a clearer perspective than I was able to. :)
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Azunara wrote:What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems."
Seriously if that,s the issue those people really really really need to stop playing this WoW ASAP same with if a pet is killed ruining your day. WoW is a game and should be treated as such. If the game you play triggers mental problems then some one needs to step in and stop them, its time we stoped blaming the games. and just cause some people play the game in a different way then you doesn't make then stupid. Can we plz stop with the name calling in this thread

and in your first post Zuilu you stated that you got pissed and that is a word for upset
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Azunara wrote:What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems."
Seriously if that,s the issue those people really really really need to stop playing this WoW ASAP same with if a pet is killed ruining your day. WoW is a game and should be treated as such. If the game you play triggers mental problems then some one needs to step in and stop them, its time we stoped blaming the games. and just cause some people play the game in a different way then you doesn't make then stupid. Can we plz stop with the name calling in this thread
I know numerous people who have made great progress with mental illnesses through video games, though it would be much better if there wasn't spiteful people on the internet, though we obviously can't fix that.

Please point out one place someone was called a name.

Dr. Rockso wrote:and in your first post Zuilu you stated that you got pissed and that is a word for upset
Edited because I missed it:

Upset: disquieted: afflicted with or marked by anxious uneasiness or trouble or grief.

I wans't anxious, uneasy, troubled or in grief. I was annoyed. :lol:

I'm aware of what I wrote and I know how I felt, if I said I wasn't upset, then I wasn't upset. :)
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Dr. Rockso wrote:
Azunara wrote:What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems."
Seriously if that,s the issue those people really really really need to stop playing this WoW ASAP same with if a pet is killed ruining your day. WoW is a game and should be treated as such. If the game you play triggers mental problems then some one needs to step in and stop them, its time we stoped blaming the games. and just cause some people play the game in a different way then you doesn't make then stupid. Can we plz stop with the name calling in this thread

Firstly: I did not insult. I have not seen any insult. If you're going on about the whole ignorant thing...well, it's a sad day when ignorant is a "name" to call someone. I don't know how to do higher math such as Calculus. I am ignorant of said math. Ignorant is just another way of saying do not know. I swear to you.

Secondly: Do you know how many people have come forth saying, "Yeah? I use WoW to relieve stress and get away from the suffering in real life." Do you know how many people you've said to, "I'm sorry. You have mental issues and this affects you more harshly. Get off he game and go see a doctor." Not everyone is going to be stoic and shrug it off. Believe it or not, some people don't like it when their stuff is taken from them. Let's say you have something ninja'd. You're going to be upset, aren't you? Same idea here.

Thirdly: Yes. WoW is a game. A good game. A game that affects people emotions. That's what a good game does. Hell, this game has made me cry once or twice, (Rhea in Badlands, anyone?). It has made me laugh, it has made me furious at times. That's what a good game should do: affect you deeply. So is it any wonder people react from what other people do to them in a game? Really? Is it any surprise? If you do something rude to them, they will get angry. Stealing their pet is rude.
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Zuilu wrote:And no, I don't need to 'switch games' because a handful of people are ignorant and get laughs out of other people's sadness.
calling people ignorant is calling them a name
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Dr. Rockso wrote:
Zuilu wrote:And no, I don't need to 'switch games' because a handful of people are ignorant and get laughs out of other people's sadness.
calling people ignorant is calling them a name
How many posts have I used up trying to explain what ignorant means? I'm not using ignorant as a name-call.

As I said NUMEROUS TIMES BEFORE, ignorant's very definition is not knowing something. Some people don't know, hence they are ignorant to, the emotions of others. It is not an insult.

For example, I failed french three years in a row in school. I am ignorant to the french language.
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Dr. Rockso wrote:
Zuilu wrote:And no, I don't need to 'switch games' because a handful of people are ignorant and get laughs out of other people's sadness.
calling people ignorant is calling them a name
No, no, no, no.

Calling someone ignorant isn't an insult!

Dictionary.com says:

lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man. (Essentially, you don't have full knowledge of something.)
2.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics. (See my ignorance related to calculus.)
3.
uninformed; unaware. (AKA Clueless. If I call someone clueless, am I insulting them? Not really.)
4.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement. (Again, not knowing fully, not knowing better.)

All in all, it means you're saying the person doesn't know better, or doesn't know enough information to know better. I'm not calling them stupid or idiots. I'm just calling them uninformed.
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Azunara wrote:
Dr. Rockso wrote:
Azunara wrote:What if that person has mental or physical issues and uses WoW as an escape? And you killed their pet? You could easily trigger their problems."
Seriously if that,s the issue those people really really really need to stop playing this WoW ASAP same with if a pet is killed ruining your day. WoW is a game and should be treated as such. If the game you play triggers mental problems then some one needs to step in and stop them, its time we stoped blaming the games. and just cause some people play the game in a different way then you doesn't make then stupid. Can we plz stop with the name calling in this thread

Firstly: I did not insult. I have not seen any insult. If you're going on about the whole ignorant thing...well, it's a sad day when ignorant is a "name" to call someone. I don't know how to do higher math such as Calculus. I am ignorant of said math. Ignorant is just another way of saying do not know. I swear to you.

Secondly: Do you know how many people have come forth saying, "Yeah? I use WoW to relieve stress and get away from the suffering in real life." Do you know how many people you've said to, "I'm sorry. You have mental issues and this affects you more harshly. Get off he game and go see a doctor." Not everyone is going to be stoic and shrug it off. Believe it or not, some people don't like it when their stuff is taken from them. Let's say you have something ninja'd. You're going to be upset, aren't you? Same idea here.

Thirdly: Yes. WoW is a game. A good game. A game that affects people emotions. That's what a good game does. Hell, this game has made me cry once or twice, (Rhea in Badlands, anyone?). It has made me laugh, it has made me furious at times. That's what a good game should do: affect you deeply. So is it any wonder people react from what other people do to them in a game? Really? Is it any surprise? If you do something rude to them, they will get angry. Stealing their pet is rude.

there you go with stealing again its not stealing the NPS is there fo anyone to do with as they plz. Stealing says you have ownership over somthing and some one is attempting to take it from you and if wow makes you cry or set of a mental PROBLEMS ( Key word there ) then you should take a break from it. Games are ment to be enjoyable a way to have fun. Crying and setting off mental Problems doesn't seem very fun :)

and go up and call some one ignorant and record there reaction more times than not they are going to react in a way in witch you just insulted them
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Dr. Rockso wrote:and go up and call some one ignorant and record there reaction more times than not they are going to react in a way in witch you just insulted them
If they think ignorant is an insult then they are ignorant to what the word ignorant means. :lol:
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Rockso, please step away from the thread. You're starting a flame war and proving further the point of what the above posters are saying.

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I'm gonna agree with Azu, Zuilu, and Kalli here. Now, I've played on a PvP server for six years. There was a time, once, when I enjoyed being on a PvP server just because it was a PvP server. I got griefed a lot, yeah. No, I was never one of those people who camped someone or killed quest NPCs or did jerkish things, because I just didn't find that fun. But legitimate world PvP? Oh, that could be a blast.

But since this patch has come out, world PvP has made my life a living hell-- and I'm not even on the Front. I'm sitting in Storm Peaks. I hate that people have declined so quickly into behaviour that is better suited to... actually, that would be an insult to animals. Do you think people act this way in real war? Let me tell you-- they don't. The crap that we go through on a daily basis in World of Warcraft is so bad that I had a vet of the Iraqi war tell me that he quit playing because, after he went to a real war, he just couldn't believe how much worse people acted in a fake one.

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