Except that it's all changing. Beta jsut started, people, we have a long way to go.Anansi wrote:Right, exactly. I wasn't critiquing anyone's proposed spec, I was criticizing Blizzard's mess of a Marksmanship tree commenting that it's not realistic right now to try and build a spec because the tree is clearly broken.Kalliope wrote: Anansi's commentary wasn't about YOUR specs; it was about the futility of attempting to come up with a workable spec in any tree at this stage of beta testing.
It's not always about you.
Other classes don't look too bad, I've been able to put together what looks like a workable raid and heroic Resto spec for my Shaman.
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Not to mention that they're screwing talents up alltogether. I like choice, not the cookiecutter stuff we've had all over. This is basically Blizz' way of saying "Don't worry, we'll dumb it down so you CAN'T do wrong."Undra wrote:Except that it's all changing. Beta jsut started, people, we have a long way to go.Anansi wrote:Right, exactly. I wasn't critiquing anyone's proposed spec, I was criticizing Blizzard's mess of a Marksmanship tree commenting that it's not realistic right now to try and build a spec because the tree is clearly broken.Kalliope wrote: Anansi's commentary wasn't about YOUR specs; it was about the futility of attempting to come up with a workable spec in any tree at this stage of beta testing.
It's not always about you. :roll:
Other classes don't look too bad, I've been able to put together what looks like a workable raid and heroic Resto spec for my Shaman.
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I'll be surprised if we see many more then then the 31 pre-requisite points in a tree.
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I hardly see how taking out all the tertiary and flat-rate talents is "dumbing down" and "screwing up". As for cookie-cutter builds, those are exactly what most people use anyways, or have to use if they want to get anywhere.Saturo wrote:Not to mention that they're screwing talents up alltogether. I like choice, not the cookiecutter stuff we've had all over. This is basically Blizz' way of saying "Don't worry, we'll dumb it down so you CAN'T do wrong."
Personally I prefer a smaller tree with nothing but directly interactive/proccing talents over a huge tree with half the talents being "you now do 15% more damage" and "you now have 10% more chance to crit". Put that stuff into the tree and mastery system and leave us with more goodies like Frenzy, Trueshot Aura, and Explosive Shot.
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One last point, though...
You don't know Smartypant.Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I'll be surprised if we see many more then then the 31 pre-requisite points in a tree.
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There are a lot of people out there like that, sadly. You'll encounter them in instances all the time now days. ALmost worse are the people who have half way intelligent builds, but have no idea how to play them. But for people like that, Blizzard could make the talent tree's straight down, do not pass go, they could automatically hot key in all the right abilities, and they still wouldn't be able to do well.
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What the hell!? He has a SCOPE on his gun!Kalliope wrote:You don't know Smartypant.Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I'll be surprised if we see many more then then the 31 pre-requisite points in a tree.
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*giggle* He's 71 points into fury without TG too.Saturo wrote:What the hell!? He has a SCOPE on his gun!Kalliope wrote:You don't know Smartypant.Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I'll be surprised if we see many more then then the 31 pre-requisite points in a tree.
People have tried to help him, but he gets pissy and won't listen....
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I saw that he was 71 into Fury, but I didn't check, because I'd prefer NOT to bleed from my eyes.Kalliope wrote:*giggle* He's 71 points into fury without TG too.Saturo wrote:What the hell!? He has a SCOPE on his gun!Kalliope wrote:
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That's my point. They could massive simplify the game and it's not going to help the completely clueless.Palladiamorsdeus wrote:Blizzard could release a patch that had the option for the game to play itself for you.....and people like that would STILL suck. No amount of changing is going to fix stupid, sadly....
Yeah, it's pretty horrific. The SCARY thing is when he starts yelling at people in WG and he's RIGHT on occasion...Saturo wrote:I saw that he was 71 into Fury, but I didn't check, because I'd prefer NOT to bleed from my eyes.
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What. Wha.AdamSavage wrote:Ok. I don't like these new talents. This going to make hunter Overpowered.. Can you imagine how much dps you would crank out while you and your pet are under bestial wrath and you fire off a chimera shot ?
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunter#,,12479
There is no way to have Chimera shot and TBW at the same time.
TBW requires 20 points. You only get 10 points to spend after getting the 31 point talent in any tree.
Tbh I am not impressed by how pathetically small the trees are and how there is nothing to make them non cookie cutter. If they wanted to cut down on variaty and all that than good for them. They also made it where everyone is going to be a god damn clone of everyone else.
I also hate how some trees force you to still take useless pvp talents for PVE.
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It could probably do with some tweaking, but ultimately as it stands today, I feel uber boxed in and completely inflexible. Some of the talents seems completely fricken pointless to me. Posthaste and Resistence is Futile in particular.
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