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Re: Finally saw Avatar
I tend not to watch remakes nowadays as there useally shitty lol. Some people just can't read subtitles. Yellow coloured subtitles are very hard to read Mr avatar next one you do make them white please theres a reason most subtitles movies use white ones.
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Re: Finally saw Avatar
Well, I'll go against the grain here and admit that I disliked the movie. Not hated, because it wasn't physically painful to watch the way some movies are ("Win a Date with Tad Hamilton" and "Transformers" come to mind...), and did have an okay message, even if it was without nuance or subtlety.
The problem isn't with an unoriginal story. The reason why certain stories become unoriginal is because they work, often even when they're done poorly, and work extremely well when they're done right.
No, my problem with Avatar was its all-around-laziness in anything that wasn't a special effect. In particular, the characters in the movie. Jake, Neyteri, Grace... none of them were people. None of them were characters. They had nothing about them that wasn't defined by their role in the movie. They have no character development on a personal level -- only an external level.
At one point in the movie, Jake talks to his video log about his conflicting feelings as he becomes closer to the Na'vi lifestyle. But he has no reason to be conflicted. So far as we know, he has no friends, no family. No favorite food or favorite movie. Nothing that would bring him any attachment to his human lifestyle, nothing that he would miss. He doesn't react with revulsion to any of the Na'vi customs -- for example, mind-linking and dominating a non-consenting animal into submission. Jake fits in neatly with them, however, because the story decides what happens to his character, his character doesn't define what happens to the story.
All the other characters are similarly flat. What reason does Neyteri have for falling in love with Jake? When are they ever really shown to bond? Neyteri knows nothing of Jake as a human, so even his being somehow exotic can't really explain it. In spite of all odds, they just fall in love, because he's the lead male and she's the lead female. Of course they belong together!
...I could rant on this for a while, but I really doubt you guys want to read an essay on this.
The problem isn't with an unoriginal story. The reason why certain stories become unoriginal is because they work, often even when they're done poorly, and work extremely well when they're done right.
No, my problem with Avatar was its all-around-laziness in anything that wasn't a special effect. In particular, the characters in the movie. Jake, Neyteri, Grace... none of them were people. None of them were characters. They had nothing about them that wasn't defined by their role in the movie. They have no character development on a personal level -- only an external level.
At one point in the movie, Jake talks to his video log about his conflicting feelings as he becomes closer to the Na'vi lifestyle. But he has no reason to be conflicted. So far as we know, he has no friends, no family. No favorite food or favorite movie. Nothing that would bring him any attachment to his human lifestyle, nothing that he would miss. He doesn't react with revulsion to any of the Na'vi customs -- for example, mind-linking and dominating a non-consenting animal into submission. Jake fits in neatly with them, however, because the story decides what happens to his character, his character doesn't define what happens to the story.
All the other characters are similarly flat. What reason does Neyteri have for falling in love with Jake? When are they ever really shown to bond? Neyteri knows nothing of Jake as a human, so even his being somehow exotic can't really explain it. In spite of all odds, they just fall in love, because he's the lead male and she's the lead female. Of course they belong together!
...I could rant on this for a while, but I really doubt you guys want to read an essay on this.
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Re: Finally saw Avatar
I'm with Kryte on this one. I did like the movie, and I thought it was a cute love story, but the characters were very flat, the dialogue was kind of listless, and I've seen the story done, and done better. The graphics WERE amazing, but I don't think a movie should get a pass just because it's really, really shiney.
Also, my favorite character bought the farm. This did not please me, especially when an important plot point could have happened FIVE MINUTES EARLIER and saved a whole lot of trouble.
Also, my favorite character bought the farm. This did not please me, especially when an important plot point could have happened FIVE MINUTES EARLIER and saved a whole lot of trouble.
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